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Site committee chairman Darrell -- -- today clash for the -- Justice Department official over whether the Justice Department is stonewalling the investigation into the controversial.
Operation fast and furious.
Who at justice authorized this program.
It's that mr.
chairman that the office of the inspector general -- at justice and if you know.
I ask uterine cancer who do you know was involved in the authorization of this today do you know who authorizes the justice.
chairman I do not know the answer to that question.
Joining us now from the White House the chairman of the powerful house oversight committee congressman Darrell I -- it.
Congressman thank you very much for joining us a contentious.
And and one that is revelatory.
What is your.
At this point.
What do you believe that is the case did the Justice Department highest authorities and -- know about this in disaster -- tragic.
Operation -- fast and furious.
Absolutely Lou there's no question that high ranking officials to justice were briefed in -- briefed.
And that many of them had direct contacts and authorizing this program.
They now call it a failed program when in fact the very concept the very way they wanted it to be executed was deadly and dangerous.
And we have just watched you are asking Ronald Walters assistant attorney general.
About what he knew.
That was a peculiar.
Response from him at least at in my opinion.
One -- be straightforward and what is the point of being there it is to be invasive.
But one of the problems was he signed a letter that was on its face disingenuous which is Washington talk for they lied using clever words.
And when we said look this clearly is not true we've had sworn testimony by three federal agents here plus more that -- given depositions.
Very clearly there's been a cover up disingenuous statements.
Half truths and unfortunately even telling us who wrote the letter who compiled would ultimately is a lie to congress.
He was not prepared to tell.
This is one of the problems is we have not gotten one straight answer from justice yet when they talk about cooperation they give us white pieces of paper -- a 100% blacked out.
And call it discovery.
And I -- talking with senator Chuck Grassley.
-- that this is going to continue obviously what is your next step.
Well we have subpoenas outstanding those subpoenas are the only reason that in and senator Grassley is tenacious -- holding up.
Confirmations until they cooperate is the only reason we're getting limited cooperation.
The expectation is this.
We will ensure that the family of Brian Terry get the justice they want which includes all people involved with his murder.
To be held accountable but ultimately we have to get accountability Department of Justice in the highest levels of alcohol tobacco firearms.
That this cannot and will not ever happen again and those whose judgments was so we're so bad no longer work for the agency.
To put in context how many guns were talking about under fast and furious operation -- -- Or however it is -- we're talking about around 2500.
And -- you have an it issue were about 30000 guns confiscated in Mexico that they say it originated United States.
This in insane operation in which.
And the agents who resisted it throughout field agents -- resisted their upper management.
That's about 10% of the total weapons over the two year period.
Well absolutely and of those.
-- tens of thousands of weapons found in Mexico a great many of them were 22 caliber.
In this case every wet and weapon bought.
Either was a snipe over sniper rifle fifty caliber AK 47 style or variant wore a cop killing pistol.
They've bought the weapons that kill police that kill law enforcement on both sides of the border.
-- congressman Darrell ice -- we -- you were the American people or you're and great thanks for carrying out this investigation and we wish you.
Continued gridlock thank you very much appreciate all right for shedding light on thank you.
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