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Defense Secretary nominee Leon Panetta faced senate confirmation hearings today -- -- center stage it was -- reading tripping.
From the Pentagon's costly military actions abroad.
Here to discuss is a little innocent of the Cato Institute a little it's a pleasure -- -- to -- a -- -- -- -- start with -- -- the Financial Times had a story this morning.
Saying that the Defense Department says 630.
Billion that they've actually spent about 750.
Billion and at this rate it's probably going to go to one point one trillion.
One point one trillion an undeclared war do you agree with those numbers.
What's typical sort of because that will we see what the administration is that -- this is obviously we've seen as of the Bush Administration the Clinton administration.
The obscure a lot of the budget figures and so part of the problem is one of how much we've given to NATO vs how much is actually been spent with the deity directly.
And so I'm sure those numbers will the -- substantiated.
Later on with the with greater evidence.
But this -- -- it sort of shows the problem.
Of these alliances and how it essentially turns into a more -- -- we.
Believe that this is some sort of antiseptic operation.
And it definitely expands into something much broader when Solis and the president the United States spent a trillion dollars of his own and without the consent or approval of the congress over this is if I wish this actually came out with a -- -- gate scandal and we -- sort of so preoccupied with the sexual improprieties.
Well let's look at held that the legislative body has -- the function.
We've seen that President Obama has -- various technicalities to go beyond the sixty day limit for the war powers and no one's really holding his feet to the fire effect.
Our very the skeptical about even being critical.
Up to about this war why do we still have 50000 troops on the ground and the government is asking us to leave.
-- understand I think that the government and Iraq is sort of on the fence on the one hand.
They want -- easily because it's definitely a source consternation for the Iraqi People.
But they also understand that in a support capacity we're providing a great deal so security for the borders -- the airspace.
But will be there as long as the Iraqi Government wants us there we're supposed to withdraw by the end of this year.
A but a lot of people the Pentagon -- we see secretary Robert Gates we see general ordinarily trying to press for -- continued US presence also have a Vatican size embassy.
In Baghdad we have Vatican -- you mean it's truly enormous whether they'll select some of your -- absolutely absolutely and we have -- seemingly permanent bases scattered throughout the country so we'll be leaving their intensive.
What are we doing in Afghanistan I think we still have a 150000.
Troops and those troops Mika.
Most of the economic energy within the whole economy in the whole country exactly right what -- what we have right now is that.
Roughly -- 100000 US troops 40000.
NATO countries aligned with us Germany France you Swedes and a part of the problem we're seeing now in fact there was a new senate report released this week.
That effort to stabilize Afghanistan is doing exactly the opposite -- fueling corruption.
We're perpetuating -- -- were undermining the Karzai regime.
All of these things we've already -- but this is just greater -- -- this is democracy building still the public policy the foreign policy of this country.
Didn't do that -- a -- folks in the Clinton.
State Department believe is the folks in the Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell's State Department did.
That we can actually instill democracy in these countries that really don't understand it or want it.
I think the policy makers are just so.
That is the basis -- of the noblest intentions and we have is magnanimous -- and we're gonna trying to reshape the world and our image.
But when you look on the ground -- -- tribes and some tribes and clans finding one another.
We've seen Afghanistan.
Basically riven with with conflict for the past thirty years politically unstable the past 200 years.
And to make anything out of out of this a region.
Even if it's not necessarily a what's western style democracy will be extremely difficult.
In a cup.
-- months Leon Panetta will be the secretary of defense in General Petraeus the head of the CIA and he changes any troops home any any less money spent or more of the same don't hold your breath.
All right I'm -- This happened at Goodwin and it's a pleasure to have you here thanks very linkage but while the -- away the big --
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