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Once again to discuss some public propose concrete solutions to our illegal immigration.

And border security crises -- in Iran -- executive director of the national immigration forum.

Alberto Cardenas during your attorney who serves as counsel the business interest affected by immigration laws also former General Counsel to senator.

Kay Bailey Hutchinson an interest -- back.

The Kansas secretary of state and co author of the Arizona immigration law.

And of -- much of the legislation.

Being moved into law around the country.

-- -- Zelman thanks for being here let me begin.

With the the Supreme Court decision.

That surprised many if I may begin -- and and law allowing California to proceed with.

-- so called DREAM Act version giving in state tuition privileges.

To those who are not citizens of the United States but in the country illegally.

What your reaction personally let's begin with -- Well -- I'm sorry California.

Held -- -- supreme court's ruling regarding California has proven that.

That instate tuition bills that are under consideration in California that recently passed and Connecticut and Maryland and Illinois are within the letter of the law and this goes back to this Pilar -- though is also -- and also the 1996 legislation.

So it's very clear that these bills have -- had been Britain and these laws have been passed within the the confines of the constitution.

And are very good solid steps forward to make sure that young people can.

Get the education that they need.

That are.

You know at the issue of of education is a state issue.

Means the states that are in charge of that issue and clearly the Supreme Court has been consistent I did not find it as a surprise.

When they looked at the obviously -- opinion.

In terms of what states can do is you just stated but in this particular case as well they are leaving that role -- the states and not challenging that issue.

The Supreme Court did not rule on the California instate tuition case they declined to hear the case.

And when the Supreme Court declines to hear case the parties and the nation should draw no conclusion as to.

The merits the reason they declined to hear it and most likely that in all likelihood is because it's the first case to come up to a State Supreme Court.

When you have other state supreme -- preside over the same issue and a conflict develops.

That's when the Supreme Court usually gets involved.

The one thing's clear congress passed a law back in 96 as you cannot give in state tuition to illegal aliens -- to give its all US citizens.

And California's pretty clearly violating that law so this -- -- probably eventually take that issue it's just not gonna happen this year.

Alabama following -- high court's decision to support the employer sanctions law.

-- past.

By Arizona now Alabama has a law this generally recognizes even tougher than the Arizona law.

What's -- do you believe that it will prevail ultimately against any tests.

Absolutely not absolutely and I -- it is a sad day in America when a state passes a law that would put in jail.

Paid a priest who is trying to help -- immigrant that is what this Alabama law would do it has taken to Arizona law and twisted it and made it even more unconstitutional in the Arizona law and let me be clear there's two separate Arizona laws -- talking about.

The the Arizona law SB 1070 which how bam -- replicated and took up a level so I think that governor Bentley in Alabama.

It's -- -- -- day governor Wallace of Alabama and it's a sad day when.

Seats went ahead of when a governor standing in in between young people and an education.

Cover your reaction.

Well I -- I won't go that far look there are some good points to law there other points that I might not have written.

That way but I'll defer to Chris as to why that was done particularly.

In denying public education to individuals who may be paying taxes.

And who may be funneling dollars -- the education system let me correct myself Chris is right Supreme Court did not issue a ruling they declined to hear case.

But on that issue in state tuition.

Let's look at a great example like -- -- we've created 38% of the economic growth in this country over the last year and 38% of the new jobs pumping this economy.

Illegal immigration has not been the detriment to our public education system.

We can look at the growth in this state and we can exemplify what we've done.

And what are good Republican governor Perry signed into legislation which provides residents who graduated from our college I'm -- from -- High schools and it can prove that they've been here and are paying taxes that opportunity to pursue their education.

-- -- really describing texas' economic success to.

Embracing a legal immigration.

We're not embracing it -- I think what we're doing here is we obviously -- -- the return of what are what are they are -- illegal immigration.

As your spoiled country -- look at what we're doing with a lot of factors in terms of growing business opportunities.

Its businesses that create a job -- -- I don't regulate my numbers I'm attacks.

I'd sure you want and -- -- all right so.

I'm a fan of the English language you said other states to look for what Texas is doing and illegal immigration.

As if an address how you were -- in that -- some sort of equation to the success of Texas over the past year I'm just trying to understand.

I think what we can see is a broad success in this -- And the way we treat people -- a very humane ways you've advocated.

You know Texans we get it here but we don't end up.

Doing things that are going to be a detriment to our economy.