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Rep. Jason Chaffetz, (R-Utah), joins the Judge to talk about his prospects of running against Sen. Orrin Hatch in the 2012 Utah primaries.
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It's another established a Republican at risk of losing his seat senator Orrin hatch just might be the second Republican senator from you to -- To be ousted by a member of his own party.
Right now my -- asbestos side and whether or not to mount a primary challenge so will he or won't be.
Utah Republican congressman Jason -- -- joins me now here in the studio congressman change it's it's a pleasure welcome.
Here now thanks to will you -- won't you seek the Republican nomination against Orrin hatch next year on seriously think about I really am -- -- that -- a definite maybe but I just you know after 36 years as a senator.
Asking the voters to be there for 42 years of contiguous time.
I just wonder if it's it's time for change.
Put aside his his length of time in office there are value differences between between two -- you.
You -- small government Republican -- faithful to the constitution you voted against the Patriot Act you voted against the war in Libya.
Senator hatch almost always votes with the establishment Republicans.
Has he sort of left to the mainstream.
Of the Republican Party in Utah when you think of your perhaps in the B colleague.
Mike Lee deposing senator Robert Bennett also an establishment Republican senator in the primary in Utah -- so proud.
What likely is done I think he's shown that even as a freshman you can be very -- yeah the dialogue.
I challenge with what Orrin hatch is done in the pan out of the biggest challenges that our country is facing I think.
He was part of those challenges but of the debt ceiling.
Since 1993 there were sixteen votes on the debt ceiling in the senate.
Only three times that he vote against it.
He was either voting in favor of it or allowing through unanimous consent for these debt -- -- increased voted for TARP voted for the Patriot Act voted for.
Keeping Fannie and Freddie voted for No Child Left Behind you -- a little behind our -- of the Department of Education -- and dear -- we both were in the stimulus -- -- that the -- under the Bush Administration adverse.
He did an -- two years of the Obama administration he -- well how could -- say these faithful to sound money or even to the constitution.
He voted to have the federal government take over General Motors well it is that the boat that he had on the stimulus was win in the George Bush time and so the first quote -- stimulus I guess what I have a problem and challenge and question forest.
When it was George W.
Bush it was a sadness why was it okay and then why was it wrong when it was it was that -- -- let's talk about Jason -- that's how difficult is it for you.
I think -- in your second or third term -- second second term.
To challenge somebody who's been in the senate almost as long as you've -- why is it.
And to take on the party establishment like that and to give up your own seat in the house in order to do it well it's certainly not the path of least resistance I mean that.
If I wanted the smoothest easiest right but this is not a career forming I don't intend to be here for ever.
Orrin hatch was elected in 1976.
-- At this is temporary do you get any serving you get out so if I lose I'll go back to my own business that I have before but yeah I just I think it's time for change.
Do you think that the Republican leadership in the house will cut some kind of a deal with the president and secretary Geithner.
And recommend to its membership that the debt ceiling go up what do you think let's stick to their sound money guns like you.
And congressman Connie Mack who was just on haven't saying no increase in debt no more borrowing because you guys need to be taught the tough let's look.
Lesson of living within your means like the rest of us do I think -- cut a deal.
That's just product think's gonna happen there before I let you go earlier today we all watched the spectacle.
-- your colleague.
Congressman Anthony Weiner from here in New York City admitting to inappropriate behavior which involved emails.
And the sending -- photographs of himself -- unique positions.
-- was body.
Is that an offense which would it could result in his being removed against his will from the house represented couldn't be expelled.
The house I don't know the constitution's pretty tight on this and I think for good reason but eight it's sad I'm friends -- -- like him personally but he's obviously shown.
A lapse in judgment not just wants -- -- that -- three times and he said six times I just.
You know it's up to the people of New York or it something that people -- He's been on every -- other as these very very tenacious defender of the of the democratic wing of the Democratic Party.
Well the Democrats defend him -- -- they run from them saying forget about it nobody wants to get their hands dirty that's.
Look I I think the way he's treated and approach women the way he did that interview with Megyn Kelly what is happening here I let the voters in New -- -- gonna have to decide this it's probably.
Looks easy for me as a Republican over from -- ought to be harsh but.
It's sad I am really -- all right well we have to go back to where we started when you make up your mind when you call us and -- about whether I get -- senate seat yet and you'll come back here absolutely congress -- -- shape of things it was a pleasure thank you for joining us coming out.
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