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Do you love the rat race again to -- -- -- live without competition.
Are you sick of the yoga instructors.
Telling you -- take a break relax.
The economist and former White House director of economic policy dot buckles says we'll take that break will make you -- and early retirement.
Guess what bad for your health.
You don't need a vacation.
And never stop competing it's good for you it's good for your morale good for your soul -- have we become a nation of -- these -- would be company in Europe.
-- -- down Todd Buchholz author of rush why you need and love the rat race.
You write about the rat race but I I must tell you.
Look over your shoulder yours sitting in front of a lovely harbor would -- it looks very relaxing.
What -- -- you're not in the rat race you're sitting there by San Diego.
-- And yes those people are miserable let me tell a lie and on the beach they've got no hope for the future.
-- So this is this business book written.
To reassure me can I love the rat race I -- competition is -- written for me to reassure myself that I'm doing the right thing or you try to convince people that are thinking that maybe some nice quiet place would be better that they're they're wrong.
Which is it.
Well you know what we've got all sorts of gurus whether they call themselves behavioral psychologists economists social and sociologist.
A yoga masters and masters who -- telling people that we all need to take -- xanax or Ambien and not only that.
They believe that capitalism should be unplug.
That this whole free enterprise system has been a terrible mistake that is created too much stress and -- driven us crazy.
And that I think is terrible treacherous -- both for our fiscal health and for our mental health.
So but you're talking about it you don't go to read don't you don't -- that we -- -- shows about the fact that a lot of people aren't going to be able to retire.
You are taking the position.
Don't re -- it'll make you still put it says in your book.
Well that that's right yeah there's been some wonderful tests that have recently been done.
Comparing to sixty some things across Europe and North America.
And the researchers asked the sixty somethings.
To -- common objects and repeat back for them those names -- -- an apple a chair a television.
It turns out and those countries like France and Austria -- people retire very early because a vast social insurance schemes.
They're unable to complete those simple mental tasks so the French and -- retire early thinking.
What they'll do crossword puzzles that sidewalk cafes and they lose the ability to read the map to find the cafe.
So early retirement is not a good idea and -- you've gotten very rigorous plans for staying busy both physically and mentally.
Are we become mean.
Otherwise say it is more or Europe ties to you know are we becoming become where we need to take -- Is maybe have three hour lunch.
Is America going that direction and is if so is that the natural way to go or we either one of them were the ones that are -- the great free market capitalists of the world so are we losing.
-- look you know we couldn't go back to simpler times things were much simpler lot of 120 years ago.
Most people you know -- weren't bothered with the Internet or cell phones or even traffic.
But life expectancy a 120 years ago was about 45 years of age.
So it would be a terrible idea to think about all of us adopting a simpler life our our Americans becoming lazier I don't really see that plot.
I'm very concerned about the message is we're giving to children these days.
I think the whole self esteem movement in the schools.
And banning keeping score on the playing field -- banning spelling bees.
In many classrooms for fear that some -- won't do well -- won't feel good about themselves.
That sets those children up for a terrible time when they face the real world in front of.
Is that -- -- -- your book you talk about don't let the ninth place team get the trophy or something along those lines is that is that the idea is that if you if you come in ninety shouldn't get a trophy.
What you know I have a daughter who when choosing kindergarten was playing your job soccer just weekend soccer.
So one day my mother my daughter's grandmother comes over and asked Catherine what's the score and Katherine says well we're not allowed to keep score grandma.
A but it's three to two after I mean you can't you can't fool kids but -- You know you can set them up for failure.
The self esteem.
The Washington DC school district those children score number one in the country.
On self esteem they feel most special about themselves they believe they're the best in the country mathematics.
But then when the test scores come back it turns out there among the worst so what job prospects today -- Have if they've got an inflated view of themselves.
Well maybe they can become president but other than that there are -- they need across.
Thanks for that -- you work of Washington many may -- you know that crowd pretty well Todd.
So one day you got up and -- -- looked in the near you said I got to write a book about.
About competition in the rat race and how good of a thing it is what how did you get this idea.
Look -- quite the opposite Tom in fact.
I started writing a book and researching a book that would take the opposite and then I started doing research.
About neuroscience and psychology.
And the history of competition and I decided I was wrong the first sentence of my book rush is quote I made a mistake unquote.
Because I I -- came to realize.
That it's been driving forward it's -- trying it's the taking on new risks.
That's what makes us feel alive that's what gives is the best chance of grasping some slivers of happiness in this very confusing world.
I agree with you so much I -- up how many people do you know.
That are afraid to take those risks to do go forward and they're unhappy they're just unhappy people.
How exactly -- -- and I feel bad I got me twenty somethings who tell me that.
They can't leave their job because they don't want to take the risk even though they're not happy united.
And do you have a mortgage no do you have children know do you have a spouse that there why in the world do you sit in that chair.
And who you know instead of trying something -- -- Todd buckles of books called rush why you need.
And -- the rat -- thanks Todd.
Thank you very much --
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