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We begin with -- Fox Business alert the Alabama state legislature has -- a tough new anti illegal immigration law.
That law mirroring the the law just upheld by the Supreme Court the -- on -- -- requires businesses to use the federal.
As early as next week or joining us now -- -- discuss some solutions to illegal immigration.
Only in -- and executive director of the national immigration reform -- national immigration forum good to have you with a solid.
Alberta -- Davis junior attorney who serves as counsel to business interest affected by immigration laws let's is -- to be about every business with a country.
And former General Counsel -- senator Kay Bailey -- good to have you with us and Chris -- -- Kansas secretary of state coauthor of the Arizona immigration law.
And the foundation for a number of laws and our cross a number of states gonna have you all here.
Let let me just review very quickly where we are we've agreed.
That.
That fundamental we have to have a secure borders.
In such a way that the illegal import.
Is truly the issue.
In illegal immigration in this country that has not been resolved and must be resolved if we are to come to some sort of solution -- correct.
No one -- this would be a bad time (%expletive) up what you -- about that.
Let's start with the idea that.
That we're seeing here the state legislatures are now passing its top anti.
Illegal employer legislation.
Initiatives.
-- first what is your reaction to that -- go back.
Well I think it's very good development we have to remember that -- The federal government is not the only government actor on the field you have fifty state governments we've seen a rather dramatic contrast this week last night the Alabama legislature.
Passed in Arizona style law -- goes farther than Arizona's laws in some respects.
And at the same time we saw in New York pulling out of secure communities program which basically means they're no longer going to be sharing fingerprints of people they arrest with ice which makes it harder for eyes to see if they've got.
Previously deported felons on their hands so.
We have to recognize if we take our laws seriously it's very very helpful if states like Arizona and Alabama.
Reinforce the enforcement of our -- helped the federal government.
In its counter productive in states like new York and California Illinois for example.
I do agree.
-- that we've got to have uniformity.
You know this is -- United States of America we don't want fifty different laws.
And what we want to have is a uniform playing field so that and employers not disadvantaged in one state and advantaged in another.
And if we can have that level.
Dialogue here on this show there's no reason why the federal government cannot step up and do what it needs to do to have a level playing field that.
Religious and test your debt on -- I mean the states have all sorts of different laws environmental laws they have different.
Working standards they have different union right to work states union states.
Are there all sorts of differentiation is between.
Among states.
To their advantage and disadvantage that's also part of a federal system states' rights -- are -- important as modern and our constitution.
Why should that why should immigration be a different matter.
It shouldn't be a different matter.
But we should have uniformity in the tools that are offered to employers so they can check and see who -- legal status to work in this country.
I think that is a base that should be offered to every -- -- correct and you note the states are obviously taking up the slack for where the federal government hasn't acted.
Maybe we can get somewhere down the road with federal action.
But it is also the government's responsibility -- federal government's responsibility to secure our borders and secure our nation and we are looking to them to do that as well.
Cawley.
You're with your thought about -- Chris defined it I mean we -- seeing a divergence in the in the path of a number of states New York for example in the states and Alabama.
Well.
This is all about solutions we have to find the solution that actually grows the middle class and that middle classes about the small business owner.
-- over 80% of business owners actually employ less than fourteen.
People on their payroll and they may have actually created over 64%.
Of the jobs in our countries that in the last five years.
So we actually need a solution such as immigration reform that help small business owners so if you legalize the undocumented -- clamp down on bad employers.
-- should create one point six trillion dollars in economic growth.
And over a 100000 jobs over ten years.
That is the kind of growth strategy that moves us forward as a country.
This quibbling over this papers is that -- -- constitutional battles -- move us forward.
-- will be back review and reform colleagues.
