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We continue on Imus in the morning Osama bin Laden.
Out of the way of course but national security still a big issue.
For the 2012 presidential race in the former ambassador to the United Nations said John Bolton is with this year in studio to talk a little bit about that.
Festival Melissa -- the morning because its interest to your Washington examiner piece that she wrote.
It -- the title of it.
Really sums it up saying that that the national security should not be an afterthought in the election do you get the sense now from watching things -- they develop that it that is well I think President Obama would love to have it be an afterthought because of the failures of his policy over the past two and a half years he really doesn't.
Care that much about foreign policy but.
The trouble is that while he may want to focus on restructuring our domestic economy.
Our adversaries aren't waiting for us to get things right and the threats that we face I think are growing and they do have a direct effect themselves on our domestic economy don't you think he'd like to focus or at least bring up the fact of the the bin Laden raid in the bin Laden killing and talk more about that -- that say what will be talking about -- ten minutes which is the unemployment rate in the jobs picture in this country well I think there's a great achievement to get bin -- there's no doubt about it but it was the result of ten years of effort it was one of -- called by the president doesn't reflect his underlying foreign.
And it and it's we just lost something there what was that center.
Like a light blew out adjustable and as you were speaking but you know that's live -- some -- after is what can you say.
Thanks that the fact is that I think the administration would like to use bin Laden's death.
As an argument for further withdrawals from Afghanistan further diminution in the US position around the world on the grounds the war against -- has been one that's just flatly wrong you know I was reading -- your -- and here's what's the one of the -- -- so that's me because -- speaks to the future and how -- allocate.
There are funds or what our strategy is going to be and I'll just quote from a from a set for a second he talked about secretary of defense.
Our Robert Gates he said that he's pursued a relentless -- direction.
Of defense assets towards low intensity.
Conflict is what you talked about and and what you say -- he's essentially ignoring other -- he's essentially ignoring the growing Russian and Chinese assertiveness.
So you you just don't think our priorities are in the right place -- it -- like I think in a world of uncertainty have to prepare for multiple threats it's not wrong to be ready for more conflicts like Afghanistan because we may well see that look at Libya look at Yemen look at Syria.
But it's also the case that Russia and China.
Are creating a recreating new strategic capabilities so we can't ignore that the possibility what -- that and what do we do about it then I guess in the simplest way of asking well for example against China in the western Pacific they're creating a situation where they are challenging American naval dominance for the first time since.
Meaning other countries near China feel threatened I think this is the wrong moment.
To reduce the size of our navy which is are ready to perilously low level.
And to keep America's visibility in that part of the world that has enormous economic consequences here at home to them may -- then the person running for president on the Republican side.
-- -- some -- -- familiar with China so -- Jon -- points it comes to -- because he's the ambassador there does that not make -- well I think governor Huntsman certainly looks like -- interest in running he might wanna explain why he worked -- -- administration -- so fundamentally disagrees with.
Or he didn't fundamentally disagree with that why should get the Republican -- there you go that's ER I knew and know you're gonna say that exactly but I've heard that from the Republican side.
Have heard arguments against Mitt Romney from the Republican side because of the health care.
You look at this candidate field and think -- I better get in their soon or maybe there's a different thought process goes through your head.
I think many of the people who are or running for the nomination are eminently qualified to be president my concern is that we have a full scale debate on national security policy number one because I think president Obama's.
In confidence in the job has left the country.
Perilously -- we need to alert people of that number two I wanna make sure that none of the Republicans turn out to be out liars that they are in the mainstream of Republicans think so what role you personally plan a lot of people want to run for president but what role you personally play -- that debate well I'm thinking of doing just that in order to make sure that we have an adequate level of debate on national security I'm also well aware that if you're not a sort of a full scope candidate.
You can be marginalized so if if I ran I would not run just talk about that that issue I would run to win that's a huge decision for anybody to make and that's that's what I'm still thinking when we make it but because -- at some point it becomes too late to get -- I don't know what that point is because it says it's a big.
It's a big deal running for president cost a lot of money you have to be very well organized it and you know all this but -- you you can't stay out until.
The and you gotta get -- at some point and once as you say once you get and you gotta be in it.
Essentially to win -- or at least try to win at the -- do you make that decision by well I think it's the end of the summer the early -- I do think the entire schedule in this cycle has shifted well into the future much different from the last couple cycles I think the field is still in complete.
Whether I get in or not I still think there -- a lot of other people -- gonna come and now we look at this all this one of the things we talk about when we talk about the candidates who say well who's a quote -- we had discussion yesterday a little bit serious candidate for president -- who's in their.
Maybe stir -- up a little bit or bring certain issues to the plate that wouldn't ordinarily be brought in.
Would that be your goal in it but you said a moment ago well amenity in it to win it how would John -- win the Republican nomination foreign policy obviously to be something that your.
They're experienced in but what about you know sought more to it and that.
Well I think there's no doubt that in the Republican Party there's a very strong consensus for dramatic reductions not just in federal spending.
But in taxation in federal regulation I think this is an issue not a bad green eye shades and a and the budget it's about the total role of the federal government in our daily lives.
And I think as you push the budget up as you increase the federal government share of our gross national product.
You're reducing the scope of individual liberty I think that's really what the tea party's all about that's the way -- approach but does not done that budget.
Cutting mentality have to include to some extent.
The Defense Department and the military is now part of it.
I think there's unquestionably waste and fraud in the Defense Department budget it's it's part of the government after all and I think we ought to go after that aggressively the money we save there I'd plow back in the defense programs have been underfunded and if need be I'd cut more from domestic is that Secretary Gates is doing -- -- know he's not he has dramatically reduced already by about 400 billion dollars.
The total defense budget the president has instructed him to find 400 billion dollars more of cuts.
So we are reducing our capabilities well into the future the impact of these cuts will diminish our cloud and our projection of -- capabilities for decades.
While -- ambassador Bolton it's always been terrific to see you you knocked -- one of the lights in the studio it smelled like smoke for a little while but we all fought through together.
Thank you very much miles -- center for a little while we're going to be all right we're --
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