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Governor Chris Christie took a victory lap PSA for polling New Jersey out of a ten state Cap and Trade System called Reggie.
The regional greenhouse gas initiative that had the potential of strangling small businesses is in his state take -- listen.
Reggie does nothing more.
The tax elixir -- Tax citizens.
Tax our businesses.
Discernible or measurable impact.
Upon our environment.
-- -- For cap and trade will government Governor Christie succeed in taking on the cap and trade lobby let's ask -- -- yeah.
For Americans for prosperity and Joseph -- managing editor of the American spectator -- felt first of all kudos to you congratulations because.
One you predicted this is gonna happen about a year ago and to you guys had a lot to do what lobbying against his Cap and Trade System right.
Well thank you very much it was it was a long fight are terrific state director -- bombing and did an unbelievable job getting co sponsors on the repeal bill building grassroots support.
Getting local elected official the pass resolutions on this.
And Governor Christie did the right thing he saw the ground -- and he got out in front of the pro Israel -- one enormous amount of credit.
What now are the implications for this not only for New Jersey but for all country.
Well I think their considerable implications for a couple of reasons first of all in New Jersey global warming -- there's a unilateral governor opt out so they are out of Reggie now whether or not the repeal legislation passes so it's one state.
They won't be subject to those regulations.
The regional implication I think will now see New Hampshire likely pass repeal it passed overwhelmingly in the house there.
Only a couple -- votes short of veto proof in the senate I think they'll get those votes now I think Maine will be the next to fall.
And nationally it's a huge rebuke to Lisa Jackson Obama's EPA administrator who designed this program at the DP director in New Jersey.
And I think it's a big setback in general for this whole idea of having you know strict energy controls -- -- approach -- terrible head out if he's right it doesn't work.
-- a setback air for folks like me -- a little questionable about global warming particularly in this cold winter we just had.
Is is that he began Governor Christie began -- his victory lap yesterday.
By saying he believed wholeheartedly and global warming let's take a listen.
But certainly not sciences which is the first problem but when you have over 90%.
Of the world's scientists who have studied this stating that climate change is occurring in the humans play -- you're reading roll.
It's time to defer to the experts.
Are -- -- What's up what act.
Yeah that's not gonna play well with Republicans but it is.
Not necessarily a bad thing for him at all when you consider.
That he's doing the right policy which is he's with the drying.
But -- -- let me just stopping there because that that -- -- problem -- -- -- that with his statements doesn't he open himself up.
To -- -- you know if it's if it is a big problem if it is gonna cause the end of the world if we don't do something about it.
Won't -- open him up -- himself up later on for some other kind of Cap and Trade System.
I don't think so because of the points he made the facts are on his side that -- program was not reducing emissions so why have in the first place even if you are admitting or acknowledging that.
Global warming is a problem it's still not effective and we -- -- in 2009 with the cap and trade bill that made its way through the House of Representatives.
It would have had no long term impact on.
Global temperatures so the facts on his side and now the rhetoric will be on -- side you I think if he can spin it that way but -- You know what's gonna happen all of the global warming -- -- user -- are the ones who say it's it's a critical problem are gonna say.
Hey look the reason why emissions are down -- just because the economy's been sluggish.
Once the economy picks up again we're gonna have to put -- include trade and -- now Governor Christie has admitted that we need something like.
Well I mean the European experience -- that emissions actually increased in under their cap and trade program until the recent economic trouble -- the increased more in the covered sectors in the sectors that weren't covered so.
I think he's on really solid ground saying that even if you believe in global warming this approach is a complete failure -- moreover.
Unless you've got a global binding verifiable treaty where you can actually enforce that globally nothing one country does is gonna make a -- let -- ten US states and so.
I think he's absolutely right I hope that he set the standard now for what you can say and do as a Republican in a blue state where people do believe in global warming but these policies Obama -- -- All right very quickly where it would run out of time but from both of you does this kill cap and trade initiatives all over the country first you -- I think it does I think he used the -- the red states will eventually repeal it it'll collapse -- I think it'll be dead in the other regions as well Joseph Lawler.
Absolutely as long as you can make the case -- is too expensive.
In this environment in this economy that's going to be a very strong argument -- yes.
Gentlemen thank you very by the way -- -- Joseph Lawler in the American spirit spectator for which -- writes -- thank you gentlemen have a great weekend.
So what do you think.
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