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Right well no surprise that.
The president's call for Israel to give land the Palestinians is ruffling some feathers but others are supporting the tough stance joining us now to discuss what impact all of this could have on Israel.
And the region is rabbi Marvin Hier founder dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.
And David Harris CEO and president of the national Jewish democratic council gentlemen welcome great to have both of you this afternoon.
-- I'll begin with -- you.
Is there anything anything positive that could come out of this proposal.
No personal the president's speech that was some positive elements.
The president spoke forcefully about against the Palestinian.
Unilateral move for statehood that the UN.
He has said that the bonds between -- of the United States right shape the -- But I think he made a major -- up in going back to the June 67 border it is no president no sitting president has ever done that before off.
The president explained himself by saying you have to be blunt -- friends.
-- he should have been justice blood to the Arab world he should've said to the Arab world bluntly so -- if you have Hamas.
-- pot of the Palestinian government they'll never be peace.
It's as simple as that but the president didn't say that.
And therefore he put the August.
On the June 674.
Days which the prime minister of Israel says is indefensible.
And we cannot go back he says to -- -- and 67 -- All right David I'll get your response to the rabbi.
Do you think this is a blunder -- it was certainly an eager aggressive position by the president.
I know -- I definitely do not think it was a blunder it's almost as if there were two speeches here it's the one that the president gave and the one that many people seem to be reacting to.
The rabbis and fortunately wrong this is not at all unprecedented.
This is exactly what our president George W.
Almost six years ago to the -- as he stood next to Mahmoud Abbas president of the Palestinian Authority when they stood together on the White House lawn.
But the 1949 armistice lines -- they said at the time with agreed upon swaps would be the basis this is something that secretary of state Hillary Clinton said.
This has been a dozen years everybody's understood would be the basis what is unprecedented.
Is that a president of the United States in an address like this would -- such a lopsided lead pro Israel address facing the -- -- in terms of Hamas and the top.
That union in terms of isolating -- -- the United Nations in every other way.
That you would please the onus on the Palestinians and all of that rhetoric would be decidedly pro Israel.
All right and rabbi you again calling this a blunder saying it it's it's just a horrible mistake in so many words.
So are you concerned then about that.
The tourism dollars that flow and GT Israel from around the world Israel is missing and finance its strong stock market at -- and he could this jeopardize it.
Know because Israel Israel remain strong get -- great bipartisan support.
And I can assure you that the overwhelming consensus in Israel will be that this is a -- a fantasy.
And as long as Hamas remains -- of the equation.
That will be talking about this next he had they'll be no movement whatsoever on the part of Israel as long as Hamas refuses to recognize Israel.
I think that's the bottom line of all this.
Boy David you mention Hamas you had to bring that into that picture and eight an additional increase exposure to that terror group half the Palestinian people do identify with that and that's got to -- can't.
And it's absolutely and and the and the -- is exactly right that -- it absolutely complicates matters tremendously.
It's important to recognize that the president recognize this very forcefully and eloquently in his comments.
And said the onus is on the Palestinians to answer what he said with a very credible.
Very significant security questions that Israel -- how could Israel talk to the Palestinians if it in this alliance with with Hamas.
But he -- that onus.
Very significantly completely on the Palestinians.
All right so what could have said that to the Arab world my point is I I agree with you on that but he should have said just that -- -- like he was -- with Israel.
By going back to the June 67 boarded.
He -- set to the -- to the Arab world after all this was an -- broadcast heard the Arab world.
No to Hamas as -- this you have Hamas there will not be peace a simple statement.
So rabbi where do you want to hear from.
The US administration is there anything from the Palestinian representatives that would satisfy you to agree to this up proposal by President Obama let.
Let let let me say very very frankly.
You know bail -- -- -- they always come up with this idea vote would not.
I hope they're not -- having a heading in that direction that Israelis are robbed of these -- would notice.
Put the means -- -- Hamas signals.
A temporary halt.
In their philosophy of the destruction of Israel.
The Israelis will not buy it.
-- no pride minister of Israel will be able to sit in his office that agrees to what deal.
Of the June 67 boy -- with Hamas as a plot that.
David -- you know the Palestinians.
-- Palestine refuses to acknowledge Israel.
Absolutely and this is something that the president said squarely.
That he put he put two bad.
The fact that that Israel can move forward.
Unless Palestinians recognize Israel's right to exist -- this very frankly and he put -- put that -- is well on the Palestinian couple a couple of quick second here at the meeting Israeli prime minister in the end Obama going on right now talking to reporters -- the best -- -- can come of this.
Oh oh I think that that the friendship.
It between the United States I'm debt and and the Israelis unshakable and President Obama -- that correct.
I don't think the United States is gonna force a solution upon the people of Israel.
Okay well look look -- the untold story here is the incredibly deep textured security relationship.
In this administration between US and Israel and that is really what they're going to be focusing on as well and confronting Iran.
Our -- -- fascinating discussion tough issue here today were rabbi Marvin -- and David Harris gentlemen thanks to both of you.
Very -- well adverse.
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