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Obama has reignited the debate over comprehensive immigration reform as he once again makes the issue -- -- -- from his reelection campaign.
Joining me tonight to talk about concrete solutions to.
Issues.
Illegal immigration and border security.
Only -- Alberto Cardenas junior attorney serves as counsel to business interest affected by immigration laws.
Former General Counsel to senator Kay Bailey -- and -- And -- go back Kansas secretary of state co author of the Arizona anti illegal immigration -- are good to have you all here.
Let's begin.
-- with the first it -- -- the first issue.
-- can can we all agree.
That illegal employers are the first problem when it comes to illegal immigration prescribing and review.
Sure -- I would hope we can all agree that that is the primary magnet that draws illegal aliens into the country and I would hope we would agree that probably one of the first steps that should be taken if we take enforcing the -- seriously is.
We should require all employers to use the -- and to hire illegal aliens -- -- protects our unemployed US citizens against that illegal competition.
What are what are your -- They're very.
We have -- we of course need to protect the American worker that is first and foremost but we also need to secure our borders.
And doing that yes.
But to do so but we need to look at the symptom of the problem here and that is of course the workforce that we need to have to sustain our economy.
There are jobs that others will not do in this country and there are jobs that we need to fill.
What we really should look at is leveling the playing field you can instill -- verified tomorrow but you'll have.
Independent sub contractors out there with 1099 forms.
That will not be subject to.
Into the system and knowing who they are and giving them a tamper proof.
Mechanism for those that are coming into the country.
From outside the United States.
Federal -- Ending the horizon here a bit -- what do you what measure and judgment about first we're Chris you verify if compulsory for all employers in this country.
Well regarding.
When you look at the data over 64% of jobs have been created by small business owners in the last fifteen years in fact 50% of workers now work for small business owner.
If he verify was to have been mandatory in the fiscal year 2010.
It would have cost be small business owners are in our country who are driving us forward.
Nearly two billion dollars so when our economy's in such precarious footing we need growth strategies and growth strategy is immigration reform.
Not a big government.
Regulation and bureaucracy.
Like you verify.
Well yeah.
Then that's interest thing but at the end of the day.
-- pressure monster -- boom we do we agree that illegal employers are the first.
First line of the problem.
That they hands down on the first part of the problem to crooked employer is the only one that's winning right now the American worker is losing the immigrant workers -- And until we level that playing field but fixing immigration system in a comprehensive way only that crooked employers and winning.
Nobody's more pro business than I am.
I also expect all of those you have to pay their taxes.
Why should I have.
Don and whether it's from it and can -- -- inconveniences.
Anyone to use.
Leading to.
-- bunch of immigrant workers suddenly going off and packing their bags in fact there -- gonna go to the even more -- employer.
Who doesn't pay their taxes now and definitely is not gonna paying their taxes tomorrow we're.
