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In Washington almighty -- next guest says be very careful about any jerk reaction.
As -- guard says cutting off funding to Pakistan.
Could ultimately backed by the former White House chief of staff.
He knows a threat when he sees one it was -- himself as a -- President Bush our country was under attack perhaps one of those.
Century's most memorable photos think about that armed India.
-- you know you're very.
Let's do diplomatic and a decent guy.
I don't trust these guys you know I guess that we we don't trust to me that you know but does and why you stay in bed with -- you know.
Known and -- believe me.
There are many many concerns that we have with Pakistan.
But we also have to pay attention to where they are the world the right next to India they have a nuclear weapon.
Yes our access to Afghanistan we can't conduct the war in Afghanistan if we don't have access to cross.
And Pakistan with our planes and our trucks and our troops.
So we desperately need to have a relationship with them that is constructive.
Yes it's a -- it's a relationship where -- trust is always tested.
I applaud the president for having the courage to do what he did it and going to get Osama bin Laden and taking the risk diplomatically.
But to do the right thing I think it is a wake up call to folks in Pakistan in the leaders there.
But we always what -- thought.
I'm Randy you know that's what I'm -- -- let's take a visit the civilian president on his work and then the the united -- about does Pakistan was in the dark about this and I talked to intelligence -- -- say well.
That doesn't surprise and the military types might now or intelligence types right now and just deliberately keep him in the dark as sort of a clueless buffoon.
And in that -- astronaut I don't now.
But but best case scenario -- we would be backing -- clueless.
Did they may be a friend on making sure the terrorists don't get nuclear weapons.
They may be a friend and making sure they don't do anything to aggravate the Indians that could overreact all they could overreact to the Indians.
There was serious -- areas area of Pakistan is very troubling and we paid a lot of attention there.
We have a lot of strategic.
Interest in Pakistan and we have a lot of national interest and Pakistan.
Not just the warrant Tara I want them to be 100% trustworthy ally in the war on terror then not 100% trustworthy.
But they may -- 80% trustworthy and that's pretty important.
President Bush I thought it is an important picture she said he he said you're either with us or against us if you're against us you know -- really kind of get your -- -- -- you can.
A little bit with but you can be a little bit with -- -- Still -- I mean it must strike you as a little bit unsettling to know.
We you know here's all the summoned whenever someone on in these tapes rank and may -- targeted bombing campaign than it did and all of that.
Plus dramatic days and into the city but he was in a city of 80000.
It -- you know a stone's throw away from the military installations.
Little more than 35 miles away from the nation's capital.
If you had known that that.
And and the country's war on a stack -- brands had no idea.
You -- it it does stretch the bounds.
It you know and and yes it does in congress should challenge our State Department and our CIA and -- did Department of Defense.
To find out what they know what the pakistanis -- and why they didn't know or whatever.
But I don't think our congress should overreact and do something without thinking of consequences beyond that which were worried about right now.
All right I just -- Congress is also considering why -- good money after bad what do you think since 9/11 -- we've gotten.
For that eighteen plus billion dollars.
While we got access to be able to support our troops in Afghanistan.
We did get help getting college Sheikh Mohamed and a few other ten bad guys and taking them.
Off the streets and putting them in a place -- they cannot participate in the war on terror.
-- we got some diplomatic help we got a little bit more peaceful relationship between Pakistan and India.
And we did B -- we were able to count on Pakistan helping us in some aspects of the war on terror.
Do we also learned that we can't trust them all of the time yes.
Sure we work on building trust yes is this an opportunity to give them a good hard shaken wake them up and tell them to be more responsible.
Absolutely I hope they get the joke because they've got to be with us they'd better not be against us because if they're against us watch out.
We know what happened with us Osama bin Laden and it can happen to other people who have been not with us that you -- about a -- government there.
Andy card thank you my friend.
Thank you Neil good to be with him.
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