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Tonight on the docket is now the time to leave Osama bin Laden was the excuse the Bush Administration used.
To enter into a bloody and costly and -- declared non defensive war in Afghanistan.
This is a war that did nothing to make the United States or the world any safer this is a war that did nothing to find Osama bin Laden he turned out to be hiding in a different country.
Living openly there.
This is a war that undermined the values of the constitution.
This is a war that killed American soldiers and innocent civilians without any legal moral or rational justification.
Now the bin Laden is dead.
Is this a chance for American -- pullout from Afghanistan.
After nearly a decade of futile fighting.
Our next guest thinks so and they've reached across the aisle in a bipartisan effort to end at least one of America's five current wars.
Here now the two co sponsors of a bill in the House of Representatives to end the Afghanistan war.
Republican North Carolina congressman Walter Jones and Massachusetts democratic congressman Jim McGovern.
Members of congress welcome here it congressman Jones to you first.
Why should we be out of Afghanistan and why should we get out now.
Well just thank you so much for this opportunity and Jim McGovern is the sponsor of the bill and I and the -- co sponsored the bill and I wanna share if you give you an answer.
First of all December the eighth 2010 Washington Post in a meeting with.
Petraeus and I can very Karzai said.
He now has three main enemies the Taliban the United States and the international community if I had -- -- today I choose a Taliban.
Why -- our young men and women be dying for a -- of a nation whose corrupt that says history is on the Taliban who Killen American.
Understood Karzai -- is of course the nominal head of the nominal government and Afghanistan congressman McGovern welcome here.
I think you might be the first Democrat from Massachusetts and beyond freedom watch and I want to know.
You and your democratic colleagues are always welcome here well I think you and preaches is the principal reason congressman McGovern.
For which we entered the war or that the stated reason.
Now I accomplished which was to find the head of al-Qaeda and kill him.
Absolutely we went into Afghanistan.
To go after al-Qaeda.
Okay there's no longer in Afghanistan there and other places and as you mentioned the beginning of the show we found Osama bin Laden not in Afghanistan but living in a mansion.
We are stuck in this war that has no end in Afghanistan a civil war.
Other Taliban are bad people we know what they live in Afghanistan and -- like al-Qaeda that moved in they've lived there.
And we could be different of the ten years another hundred years we did commit another 100000 troops and we still gonna have this stalemate we should -- -- to be a political solution.
To the extent that they can have when they -- but we should not be spending anymore.
Any more any more money.
Losing anymore are precious.
The precious lives of our servicemen and women over and in this conflict.
Essentially support as well the point.
A corrupt government we should do we should end now where -- got do we we got that we had to Osama bin Laden it's time to leave.
Now that you that the -- -- you are a conservative.
And a northern.
Liberal Democrat congressman -- when you make the argument that you and congressman McGovern and just made.
To our viewers when you make it to the Republican leadership in the house how does it resonate with them.
Well jurors the problem is the Republican leadership John manages this past weeks that we need to be in Afghanistan moment.
I like what GMC GM said why in the world after ten years spending billions and billions of dollars -- in our young men and women come back and flag -- home.
It's in our men and women with their legs -- at all.
All we have given our kids -- tragedies hit GM said I'll treasure.
It makes no sense it's time to get out and take your viewers may distort -- members of congress.
On the Republican side and say get behind this deal this been introduced in the.
-- partisan way they similar question to you congressman McGovern when you make the argument that you -- congressman Johnson now making very eloquently.
To the president's people in the White House how -- they react.
I look I think it's politically difficult to end.
Any war Lyndon Johnson had a right right it's easy to get it to ward -- -- -- -- get on the war.
-- won the arguments that we've been making especially now like during this time what we we are all trying to find ways to save money in the federal budget.
Is that the that the war in Afghanistan is right to be paid for what we're what we're -- -- that money right eight point two billion dollars a month.
In borrowed money and a hundred billion dollars a year this is crazy we talk about deficit reduction but we're not talking about.
The wars and it's -- doesn't make any sense so there's a fiscal.
-- to me being here as well and you know a little Walter I try to do is provide some wind.
Behind the president's back.
-- had to give him the ability come July when he says he's gonna talk about announcing -- have draw downs and to do more than just.
Announce a token drawdown of about divorces but -- signal that -- ending.
War congressman Jones says the legislation that the -- -- you are proposing which I understand has some.
Other Republican co sponsors stand a chance will it make it out of committee will it get to the floor are -- speaker Boehner and company prevent.
Prevented from getting there.
Judge what we're doing is giving the American people a vehicle to call their member of congress is saying get behind this -- introduce.
I -- McGovern in mr.
Jones and let's bring our troops home.
Congressman McGovern Jones is a regular on this show we hope -- become one as well.
Copyright and congressman Jim -- -- congressman Walter Jones it's a pleasure thanks for joining us thanks for having -- night.
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