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Exactly well as we just heard from senator and -- President Obama has deficit reduction plan.
Already coming under fire from Republican critics.
We'll call it nothing more than another tax and spend proposal and apparently.
It didn't while vice president Joseph Biden bit.
Who was caught dozing off during -- president's speech oh but did the president show the kind of leadership.
That will convince the American people let's have someone who knows a thing or two that presidential speeches Andy card.
Former White House chief of staff under president George W.
Bush good to be with you mr.
card what your reaction to the president's speech.
-- -- -- -- to be with you for the first device that was more of a political speech that I expected I thought it was kind of a campaign speech with a little -- -- policy near the end.
And I think that -- outlined the theme of his campaign which is -- going to be I wanna tax the heck out of people who are helping to grow the economy the rich people.
Well we had millionaires and billionaires three times that -- was used three to at least I -- three there may have been more than three.
-- that sort of tax the rich.
Class warfare rhetoric win that are reelection in 2012.
I hope not because -- I wanna see a growing economy in this country and you don't grow the economy back by taking away the money that provides -- resources for the engine that's gonna.
Get people back to work but let's take a look at a -- and me it was short on specifics I was hoping that he would leave everything on the table including Social Security he did not.
He starts right off by saying people -- aren't aren't taxed enough in this country and he wants to provide an opportunity to tax them even more.
And he didn't even really offer any spending discipline and he didn't offer their deductions.
Over twelve years and that -- Paul Ryan -- over ten years so I don't think that it measured up to Paul Ryan's plan by any stretch of the imagination.
I hope that it's a serious plan enough for them to be at the table but if the vice president's gonna sleep through the -- maybe he won't be too awake when he showed up at the table.
Ole Ole mister card you know as did I was pointing out I mean it -- number of times mentioning taxing millionaires but really no mention.
Other words small business no mention of the words the words economic growth no mention of the fact that -- -- equivalent as reported.
Germany and then Russia's debt on the backs of American taxpayer under Pelosi.
To the -- -- gaveled out.
Last fall what what it must December what do you make of that that this spending is sort of on cruise control.
And now the president's calling for tax hikes after this you know we have the supersize -- government going on.
Not only that the baseline for the president's discussing.
This discussion was the budget that he proposed a fiscal year 2012.
Which was -- inflated and irresponsible budget to begin with so.
He doesn't even use the right base to start from he's not talking about the base of obligation that America has today.
He's talking about the budget that he proposed for 2012 which was put in the wastebasket.
Issued as it showed up on Capitol Hill.
But I also worried that by talking about increasing taxes in two years on.
Small businesses you're gonna stifle the -- attorney for those small businesses to.
Take the risk to employ more people they're -- husband their resources thinking they gonna be here with a very big tax increase in two years.
But I don't think that was a Smart move in terms of wanting to grow the economy.
But if in fact he couples are getting rid of a lot of deductions with lower tax rates has his own debt commission suggested we do.
Would that be something you -- -- for.
While I wish -- he had.
Listen to all of the recommendations that were made by the debt commission.
And actually he should have proposed them back in December when -- what he does would -- if he does forgive me for -- but if he does -- getting -- of deductions and lower and that operates is that good.
I think it would be good I do think that it would be wise for him to have a serious discussion about reforming our tax code.
We wanna be competitive with the rest the world -- tax code right not right now does not allow us to be as competitive with the rest of the world as we should be so.
I favor tax reform I -- taking a look at lowering the rates and removing some of the special.
Privileges that are there on the tax code that's something I would like to see happen -- All right well thank you former White House chief of staff.
Andy card good to be with you are going to -- thank you lose.
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