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Night with growing concerns over privacy and Apple's most popular products the iPad and the iPhone.
It turns out both devices they keep record of everywhere you go and store it in a hidden file.
Apple never told consumers this and there's really no way to switch it off.
Congress now looking for answers and so our way but Apple's not talking for more -- wanna bring in Scott Weber from the Chertoff group and the consulting firm.
-- solution Scott great to have you on the show thank -- Jerry.
Are so we have members of congress outraged here senator Al Franken -- -- apple here's what he had to say.
Anyone who gains access to the single file -- likely determine the location of the user's home.
The businesses he frequent the doctors he visits the schools whose children attend and the trips he's taken over the past months or even a year.
Which take time.
Well I'm not so much concern that the information is being collected what I'm more concerned about is that it's -- encrypted.
If it was encrypted you would have protection about -- the fact of the matter is.
Most people keep in their iphones in their blackberries.
A lot of personal and sensitive information that they shouldn't tonight.
The reality is if you pick up that device and let's say you're the cops are let's say.
You're -- spouse.
You can actually get access to this information because it's not encrypted corrective it's not encrypted -- but if you password protect your Blackberry or your iPhone and you do an automatic timeout like I do every five -- right.
So if the person does that -- hours in the second but are you outraged by this or do you think -- say OK I'm I'm concerned I'm not outrage in some respects I think that people were blown out of proportion look -- -- very popular device it's a very popular company.
I want the company having access to that kind of data on me and I think of a lot of Americans out there would be upset as well how is it that apple can take this information.
Who knows what they're doing with this they never asked our permission isn't that illegal so.
-- -- I don't know that it's necessarily illegal because they don't think the you have an expectation of privacy in where you are when you're holding electronic devices.
And unless the law enforcement agencies actually using it that's a different story.
The fact that apple is doing in the doing it surreptitiously is not a good thing I think for apple but Scott doesn't a lot say that it -- any use it for commercial purposes.
You have to get the permission of the consumer.
I think it depends upon where you're located.
And and individuals who were using these phones a lot of times and you download apps it will ask you for permission for GPS tracking there's also apps is a matter of -- on track -- where you could take the tracking application off -- I mean not everybody can do that because I mean you have to have special capabilities on your iPhone can't.
I mean look wealthy if you download the the application the contract -- a little bit complicated but that it is a little bit complicated and it's not iPhone it's not the folks at apple who -- -- -- oh by the way correct.
But we also know apples and with the information I think the congressional investigations -- assuming that there are some and I think there will be will likely uncover what would -- using -- if you had to speculate today about how they might be using that what would be your best guess -- -- the spectrum like to be everything from selling it for marketing purposes.
To try and figure out what kind of patterns a consumer.
Exhibit's you know am -- going to Starbucks or am I going to Dunkin' Donuts all the way to the other of the spectrum which is giving information to the government.
And there's ways that the government could collect that information lawfully so we're all depends upon what Apple's do with the information to whom they're providing.
I've also heard that maybe they're just trying to figure out whether or Wi-Fi locations building -- a map -- that I mean that.
Anything is sort of possible at this well that's -- -- suspect from a may not be nefarious all right well.
I have to say Kevin Mitnick the famous.
Fella -- you may know up hacker.
Famous many years ago he was concerned that maybe it was going to the federal government is seems to me if that was happening -- sure -- now.
Well you know there's conspiracy theorists who think the Big Brother is watching all the time and I wouldn't lend any credence to what a famous -- says or thinks is happening with the information this is an individual.
Who broke the law himself.
By going to government databases.
I don't get to the advice now what should you do to keep yourself safe and -- make sure that -- as little as possible.
Of your personal information is getting out there very simple things password protect all of your applications pass for protect your laptop your PDAs I don't care -- it's an iPhone or Blackberry.
Make sure that it never leaves your presence.
Even when you go to the bathroom take it with you were a lock it up.
The more it's out there for somebody to steal for somebody to access the greater the likelihood is that there be some sort of breach.
And you have to worry about things like identity theft so simple things like a five minute timeout make make a big difference to a lot of people.
-- you know I look at everything -- and the digital age although little things I carry with me all the time.
And I'm really concerned that there are rules out there to protect me and protect my privacy that is all about the needs of the companies themselves and whoever else are representing.
Well it's a balance right we we love convenience we love information.
And I think that you know we're gonna have to say -- each individual's gonna have to say the more convenience I want.
The more readily accessible I wanna have information at my fingertips there's a given a -- And by virtue of that I'm going to potentially expose myself to some problems but it's worth the risk most people believe.
Most people believe I -- tell if some people may be changing their minds and there aren't some protections put in place and Scott thanks for helping the south today great information really appreciate.
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