Also in this playlist...
This transcript is automatically generated
So with that call it's ask governor Bill Richardson.
First of all I'm sure you've heard that same complaint many -- from some of the people that you've talked to over the years governor.
Well I have -- and the gentleman has a point.
Any new legalization plan comprehensive immigration reform.
The first thing we have to make sure -- is that those that are that got here illegally.
Should not get precedence in their application.
To those that are trying to get here legally.
And then secondly.
There's got to be some standards first.
They have to pay a fine for having come here legally they got to pay back taxes they -- a pass a criminal background check.
They have to learn English embrace American values.
I can understand that sentiment so what is very clear and most importantly is that.
Those eleven -- and that somehow may be legalize that they don't get precedence.
Over somebody that's trying to get here legally like that general.
Yeah -- -- -- -- mean obviously this is a very hot button controversial subject but the thing about a governor is it seems to me that this is changed from.
Whether or not we're going to have people from other countries to come in here illegally it's more of now it seems like just a good old crime.
Question the people to live in the border states like yours.
Or are crying out saying we've got gains we've got smugglers we -- drug -- we've got.
Violence we've got home invasion they're there they're just -- for asking for safety so why can't we secure the borders.
Well Tom any comprehensive immigration.
Reform has to do three things dramatically secure the border.
Secondly some kind of legalization plan because you can't throw the eleven million that are here are out.
You can't deport -- that doesn't make sense the cost would be prohibitive and then thirdly got a crack down on those individuals illegally hire.
But I think what needs to happen is a bipartisan approach.
To pass comprehensive immigration we have been put governor reality Tom you.
But that's that's that all this stuff that that all we stopped the conversation and the reason why is his whole thing about comprehensive.
You know sometimes it may make more sense I understand you need to look at all those three major -- if you lined up.
But why can't we start with just one and -- and just accomplished for example.
Making sure that the people who live in the border states don't have some of these criminal crime issues that they're afraid up and worry about figuring out what to do with the people that are here later.
Because then the other part the two other parts of the legalization.
And the issue of cracking down on those and hire legally.
It'll never pass so what you need is a comprehensive approach.
That unites Republicans and Democrats but time you've got to look at that I was a border governor for eight years I did a border emergency because we had.
Crime violence but look at the facts under the Obama administration.
Have gone down because there are fewer illegals.
He border violence has gotten a little better.
We've got about 101000 Border Patrol agents on the ground we need more we need more.
Detection intelligence equipment I agree -- he questioned border states need.
Border security a lot more than this happened yes.
-- and that is the problem that I had with the when the president went to El Paso were earlier this past week.
And he he got up thirty actually mocked Republicans like this is a Republican Democrat issue in the Republicans.
Say we want all this and we've given you wal list and maybe now they're gonna ask for remote with alligators -- -- I've got to tell you.
That was that was borderline insulting to the I would think of the people who live in New Mexico and other border states because.
It's one thing to say yes he has increased the number of people securing the border number two -- increase deportations.
But the detentions we take calls from people to work.
In border security insane they're -- -- told to turn people around and send them back and not go through the whole process but the bottom line is.
The border is not secure so why does he act like it's.
You know mission accomplished.
I used to praise President George Bush he had a comprehensive.
Immigration reform package that he put forth.
I thought it was a good one but elements in his own party killed it plus some Democrats to look.
I don't want to get in -- partisan politics here because the only way comprehensive immigration is gonna pass is as individuals like John McCain.
That used to support it and other moderate Republicans that perhaps live in the border like John can come together and put.
A good comprehensive bill that contains those elements we talked about.
No question Tom we got to secure the border a lot better than we have although there have been improvements.
But you -- realistically look at the eleven million.
That are here and find ways -- Make him take responsibility set standards don't give them citizenship.
Make -- work towards a green card don't let him go ahead of those that are trying to get here legally I've gotten those standards that I mention.
So governor -- to ask the question again and I know you answered -- but I again it just seems so simple to me to start with.
Maybe a small piece that everybody can agree on because the bigger this comprehensive reform.
It just seems like somewhere in there there's something for -- -- to disagree what.
Well it has something to do with -- votes comic -- just -- border security everybody's gonna vote for.
The tough part of comprehensive immigration reform.
Cracking down on those that hire illegally and the legalization plan so that's why you can't have it go a -- Plus have you haven't go alone just border security.
You're gonna get more states like Arizona.
Take the matters in their own hands and then pass laws that are divisive.
That racially profile that become unconstitutional.
And you get the states doing something that the federal government should do it's a federal responsibility.
Well that we agree on governor Bill Richardson always good to see you thank you so much thank you even.
Filter by section