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Also to call -- all the filibuster busting shots of the senate.
The Pennsylvania senator Arlen Specter has switched sides in the -- he's -- Democrat because he admitted he simply couldn't win a GOP primary.
As a Republican.
I'm prepared to take on.
All -- of in general election.
All right well this could be that guy joining me now the man many say single handedly forced this went Republican pat pat what did you think -- this.
Well I was a little bit surprised -- senator Specter did after all spend the last several months including right through last week.
Adamantly -- thing.
That he was gonna remain a Republican -- -- the stand to the end and the and then a switch to the Democratic Party was off the table.
We discovered of course that that's not the case I think it's gonna raise -- real question voter's mind about whether they can trust this man.
And it's pretty clear that what really motivates him is -- own personal political career much more than any set of ideas -- principles.
Aren't willing must've been responding directly acknowledged is months that is state polls that showed you handily beating him in a primary.
Yet in -- general election he could handily beat you what do you make of that.
Well we're a long life -- a general election and I'm not sure first of all that senator Specter will even be the democratic nominee.
I mean after betraying Republicans which is after he did the -- and a flip flop on.
Card check for the Democrats out.
I'm not sure that the Democrats -- on the line up behind him.
Well the permanent -- -- that -- you raise a good -- -- -- the the other ones are.
-- governor Ed Rendell.
And and and on the national level some of the big names -- well -- you're right it's it's not a -- But.
Does it make your battle more -- up to one.
All I EL I assume that whoever the democratic nominee as it's gonna put up a tough vigorous fight.
But I'm convinced that I can win this in a part of that Danielle is.
The concern the growing fair amongst pennsylvanians generally about what's happening in Washington the serial bailouts.
This staggering amount of spending the huge mountain of debt that the government as -- -- imposed on taxpayers so quickly.
The idea that we're gonna allow Democrats to have complete an unrivaled control of the government and not even the ability to filibuster in the senate.
I don't think that's gonna watch and I think that's gonna help my candidacy.
Well I am indeed there is the notion that that does senator Specter race today that.
The Republicans are lurching to the right and -- the technical.
Super conservatives who manages thrown your name -- there.
Yet but I.
It's a point that was echoed by senator Graham earlier today when he talked about who would be an ideal.
Sort of Republican.
Even in your state -- this.
To grow this party that means we got to recruit people like -- Tom Ridge it would be an excellent candidate in Pennsylvania.
Socially moderate fiscally conservative and Vietnam veteran Homeland Security secretary so we've got to look at broadening the ability at this party.
To compete in Blue States.
He mentioned Tom Ridge not you.
Well I understand that and I and I think Tom Ridge is a good guy and I get along with former governor ridge very very well.
But I would point out that you know the sitting the other sitting senator from Pennsylvania is Bob Casey a Democrat who happens to be.
Pro life and pro gun very good my message that went.
My message of ending.
Bailouts and ending the wasteful spending and getting our our federal budget in line appeal I can promise you it appeals across party lines and -- the other thing to keep in mind.
-- -- got -- got elected three times to represent the fifteenth district which which is a Democrat leaning district my predecessor was a Democrat.
And it's exactly let's raise it or just gonna get that out -- but could I ask you this.
Share fewer Americans than ever identified them selves as Republicans.
Regardless of the service.
Are you worried that Republicans.
Regardless of their point of view.
Less of a major party.
No I'm not I think what happened -- is that too many elected Republicans abandon the principles that got there after they got them there after all.
It was Republicans that created new entitlements that grew earmarks to a record level.
And frankly it was Republican a handful of Republican members of congress who got in big trouble including jail time.
For corruption it's not surprising to me that voters would throw him out of office.
But I think when people hear a message of fiscal discipline and limited government and personal responsibility.
That's a message it's gonna resonate and I think it's gonna bring Republicans back I think it's gonna bring Democrats over and I think it's gonna work in the fall 2010 for me but it.
You still have a very popular Barack Obama right now would the urban areas east side of the state.
Is still a rock star.
Can you compensate.
Well keep in mind we're only at the 100 the day of -- -- Obama administration.
And all new -- almost all new presidents are popular for -- while.
President Obama is a very charming guys got a lot of personal.
Charisma and and skills that I think.
Help his personal popularity but he's not on the ballot in 2010 -- and his policies are going to be increasingly questions.
As we see this staggering debt than these bailouts I think.
I think we can -- -- despite the fact that President Obama will probably support Arlen Specter.
All right we should point out that was when president was more popular at this point.
In his presidency than Barack Obama that was Jimmy Carter.
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