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President back in Washington tonight -- to -- Latin American trip short to deal with this current crisis back home former democratic congressman navy -- Tells us that welcomes the -- but doesn't welcome the president's mixed messages on -- congress and admiral good to have you what what do you think we have these -- your concern that the Americans is.
My time at the National Security Council under.
President Clinton is directed defense policy taught me something.
We actually do you have three types of interest vital interest that do -- our survival important interest like Bosnia that could change the character of Europe.
But there are humanitarian interest I think we should immunity for example when -- Wanda I think first President Bush was right to go in Somalia but the issue was this that I learned.
As that mission changed in Somalia.
The political objective we never had the military force that match that political objective and I think there's.
Right now but what a real political objective is what the humanitarian.
Two concerns or is it really the removal of Qaddafi and those are different types of military forces so I never felt.
That was a good enough -- assessment.
Of what is.
All real political objective or will we pulled into this.
By -- people like the British and the French and have more immediate interest.
There but do not have the type of military capacity that only we have -- order brings something about it was that little bit of dithering there that.
Gave me too much concern that I felt this was one where we didn't early on make it clear what's in our interest.
And what you're not a bad -- -- play out of theory I have and I'm probably wrong admirable if you're.
From our own hero you would know about these things.
That maybe the president was right to be skeptical of this venture -- and that Europe should handle it and that he deliberately announced our participation while traveling.
Abroad because he didn't want to be the leader of that he was kinda dragged we're told.
Almost kicking and screaming.
-- -- -- -- So he was trying to put the pressure on the French.
And others to sort of lead this because there interest are far more vital and tied to Libya.
There than than certainly than ours.
And that was the method.
Do you do do you think.
-- you don't -- as an American.
I want the president's approach to this to work.
I really did what -- the approach was just definitely not as bad that we -- part know if like yet the good -- and if the president is successful because understandably -- intervened into Muslim countries already and he wanted to be.
To do this but was able to cleverly.
Bring about others to lead this.
The only problem I have -- that is twofold.
One is after two long -- a long decade in two wars I think our public need to clear explanation.
Of what's in our interest early on -- number two.
I honestly do believe that when men and women of the United States -- put into harm's way although I like it best when we're in a coalition so we all share the burden of it.
I really like United States leadership there because ultimately those are men and women and when you place -- either under French control.
Or under -- control that seems right now to be a little bit difficult to -- I want ultimate control of that to be under those who have our interest.
First divorce and that's -- so I happen to default to bring the others along.
Or tell them why we don't want to do this but US leadership is best even when it's another intervention.
Into an Arab country.
Think we're saying one thing on this Qaddafi.
Gold and doing another in other words we say no and our goal is not to take about -- target -- But will all Lee's get on them the missile firings in the -- congressman.
But that's exactly what we're doing so we're saying one thing -- our our hearts we wanted dead or at least capture.
Well we did the same type the strikes as you well know during the Reagan there.
And -- and and you know there is now on executive order -- you can't purposely target but there's not a question that there are commanding control elements wherever this man it is.
Arm ice is so I think that this party in of the compounds is in the interest of what is trying to be.
She's so we don't have to be saying we're gonna we're trying to take him out or trying to capture and but it -- seems to be understood that's exactly what -- goalless.
-- mean without a question of Qaddafi was to be removed somehow.
It makes what could potentially become a Somalia.
Because -- different tribes here or stalemate much easier to to to deal -- but.
I think a legitimate case can be made that where he is there is a command and control center to have an assassinate shouldn't have occur with someone.
-- -- very specific sniper bullet I think is a different matter which I know he's got to command and control center and I think that can well just.
The president just said what you said there wouldn't be confused on this.
To -- -- always a pleasure sir thank you very much always question.
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