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And I have a document lies that Libya moments ago the president -- what would be here.
CI hypocritical argument for why America is waging war in Libya as it it would be funny if lives -- -- its stake.
He argued that his mission is humanitarian not military the mission of war is to -- and the president ought to know that.
But has -- forgotten his own values when he was a senator.
He argued that the president does not have the power to wage war without congressional approval -- the target posed an imminent.
Threat -- United States.
And just -- listen to what his own secretary of defense Robert Gates said when he was asked if Libya is a threat.
Those an actual or imminent threat to United States now.
No it was not it was not a vital.
National interest of the United States.
So what gives up Mr.
President why the change of heart what on earth are we doing over there.
America the president like his predecessors.
Whom he criticized when he was a senator acts like he is a king.
Who thinks he can break any law he doesn't like who thinks he can use the country's military to fight wars of choice.
The lives of American service personnel the constitution.
And your tax dollars be -- Our first guest tonight is one of the preeminent fighters for freedom and Washington he's as mad about this war in Libya as I am.
And he's here to give his take on this unconscionable use of force here with -- -- Kentucky Republican senator Rand Paul senator Paul welcome to freedom watch.
-- to Jack we just listen to the president attempt to -- ten days after he.
Authorize the invasion of Libya by American forces.
What are your thoughts senator Paul.
But I guess I'm just amazed at the hypocrisy you know he ran on a campaign saying that the president shouldn't do this unilaterally use quite explicit about it.
Saying that congress should be involved the declaration of war power comes from the constitution resides in congress.
And yet he directly -- it went against what he campaigned on.
I guess what amazes me is that he city consulted people.
He consulted people at the UN he consulted people and Arab countries he could sold people -- NATO but he did not consult congress.
And I really really think that this is a a very big problem -- even during the bush years you know.
Bush had came to congress before it went in Afghanistan and before he went into Iraq.
Wasn't a declaration of the war at but at very least he came to congress.
First some of -- -- -- colleagues notably Senator John McCain Republican from Arizona.
I haven't heard his comments on the speech but before the speech applauded the president's invasion and said something to the effect of this is a beautiful opportunity.
And democracy how do you respond to that senator.
But say it's kind of unclear you know when we went in in the 1980s we supported some people called freedom fighters in Afghanistan.
Turns out one of the freedom fighters was a Sama bin Laden.
That in turn out so well I mean the unintended consequences from going into a country like Libya where some of the fighters have been linked to al-Qaeda.
Some of them have actually traveled to Afghanistan and have fought against -- -- Afghanistan that we would actually be supporting.
Revels who may be supporters of fundamentalist Islam and fundamentalist.
I find it really disconcerting to really the most important thing here that can't be lost his.
That he's directly going against the values in the meaning of the constitution that says.
Congress shall declare war.
This was an important check and balance I mean there were checks and balances because we wanted to make it difficult they were so used to kings in Europe going to war after war the war.
Continual war the way -- we're gonna stop that is our founding fathers and it.
Congress should have a say in declaring war that shouldn't be left -- unilaterally to the president.
Or at what what happens now congress is an offer a little over a week you'll all our return to Washington.
And -- they're so.
It is there enough belief among.
Democrats as well as the Republicans as your colleague from Texas senator John Cornyn said that the president effectively treated congress like a potted plant.
It is that -- strong enough so that congress will do something put his feet to the fire restrain him force him to explain take a vote.
Do what congress is supposed to do in situations like this.
I think congress you know has been abdicating its power for a hundred years they give away their power to the president.
And as a consequence we have no checks and balances yeah I hope we will stand up I will be one of those who will be leading the fight to save Mr.
This isn't the way it works you don't get to unilaterally declare war and so we will have some discussion here next week and it's yet to be determine the outcome.
It will somewhat -- be determined about whether or not those in the Democrat party.
Who have been against unilateral war whether or not they'll stand up to their own president.
So far the Blogosphere has not stood up the president let's see if the Democrats in congress are a little bit more sincere.
Two I Republican members of congress in the house to your father's Collins not your father -- -- -- I know -- your father.
Have introduced legislation or plan to tomorrow.
Which would defund the Libyan war effectively ordered the president to pull all the troops and all the materiel military forces out immediately.
How was senator Rand Paul vote on that if it comes to the senate for a vote.
We're gonna look at that.
And other possibilities are actually saying whether or not there should be a declaration of war.
You know it's a privilege resolution under the war powers act.
In -- may well be there today nucleus gets together -- a lot.
You don't go to war without our approval -- what happens if there were a declaration a war voted down.
That might make for some interesting discussion.
Well day Dennis Kucinich -- the house says that there's a declaration of war.
Voted down on the president keeps the troops that on the president's committing an impeachable act out of course turns another page it takes us to another level something I'm sure you don't want to confront.
But if we're serious about the constitution we have to be serious about the unique role of the president and the unique role of the congress.
Well I think there -- principles that -- given to have our founding fathers that are.
In the constitution that really are very important it doesn't matter whether the president's a Republican or Democrat.
These are very important principles and these checks and balances were meant to restrain.
And out of control presidency we did not want a -- he we did not want -- president.
Who could act or declare war without approval by congress rates I think this is -- is is an internally important in a debate and we will continue it.
And we will enjoin it this way.
Senator Rand Paul from the great state of Kentucky.
By the way good luck to cal Perry is wildcats and thank you I watch that regularly joining us tonight senator.
The president's -- strategy.
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