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It has -- thanks for joining us kicking off tonight breaking news and live reaction of the president's speech on Libya beginning.
But two of the smartest and most independent military minds on the scene Fox News strategic analyst retired colonel Ralph Peters.
And retired lieutenant colonel chuck DeVore who served as a foreign affairs advisor to pentagon during the Reagan administration gentlemen good this year Ralph first to you.
We're we're gonna pick apart the speech not line by line but we look at -- -- first before we do that.
-- overall impression do you think the president made the case to the people.
Once again you had a beautifully beautifully delivered.
Fundamentally dishonest speech.
-- real audience to me was Qaddafi and the message Qaddafi -- from -- speech was he can hunker down and wait us out the president once again.
Wanted to have it both ways -- every which way.
Where he wants Qaddafi gone.
There would be a mistake go after regime change -- has to go won't use military force we use sanctions.
No fly zone -- that worked well against Saddam after 1991.
I felt the president also got himself in trouble because right up front there is a whiff of mission accomplished about this speech there and we know how that backfired on.
-- -- -- well let's let's address the one point that I thought was the biggest contradiction.
Which was on the one hand he said he wanted it Qaddafi to leave but on the other hand.
He said this roll the -- We're broadening our military mission to include regime change would be in the state.
So on the one hand he will -- to get rid of Qaddafi but on the other handy doesn't want regime change I don't understand.
Well you know he doesn't understand either get he's trying to play it every which way and even at the end I -- he said many things with which -- agreed David.
Many things in the speech I just am not sure he believes some or understands the consequences just two quick examples.
-- said that the United States will stand with the people who rise up for freedom everywhere.
-- really in Saudi Arabia.
-- -- right didn't do very well -- Geron how much China.
And beyond about Iran where where we have people -- threatening to blow up the whole globe.
Yeah absolutely and so these remarks have consequences.
So again I supported this intervention.
I think the military is -- a very very good job on it.
But you can't do this half way.
Or you end up with a -- worse model.
Then you started with -- right.
Chuck -- let me go to -- and and let -- play a tape not of the president but first of Hillary Clinton as secretary of state.
Who yesterday was talking about whose interest in general terms whose interest.
Was affected by what we're doing their let's play there at the tape of Hillary Clinton.
When it comes to Libya.
We started hearing from the UK France Italy other of our NATO allies.
This was in their vital national interest the UK and France were the ones who went to the Security Council and said.
We have to act because otherwise.
We're seeing a really violent upheaval with a man who has a history of unpredictable.
Violent acts ride on our doorstep.
So it's -- they -- vital interest but did the president proved tonight that it's also within our vital interest.
No I don't believe that the president at all and I have to agree with colonel Peters on the fact that this speech was a mishmash in fact a bit of it reminded me of when former speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking about health care said you had to pass the bill to know it was and it.
Well this president has started a war in order to understand its objectives.
And one point I do disagree with colonel Peters on.
Is the point going into Libya in the first place.
I am very concerned that just like in Egypt we don't know who these rebels are in fact.
Iran the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Would very much like to -- colonel Qaddafi gone and they support some of the Islamist rebels in the east.
And I'm just wondering what the president's going to do if the rebels begin to prevail what is he going to do when they start to slaughter at the other tribes that are loyal to Qaddafi.
All right well we we're going to be talking a little later we're Judy Miller about exactly who the rebels might be she has an idea of that.
And we're getting some indication of that but in terms of our vital interest this is this is a question that it probably will be dealt with again.
During this administration what are our vital interest outside of the United States -- and let's just play a little bit of what the president said tonight that I think you might.
Agree -- although another part of it you won't.
It was not in our national interest to look let that happen.
To let that happen.
And so nine days ago after consulting the bipartisan leadership of congress.
I authorized military action to stop the killing.
All right what he was talking about in our our vital interest was.
The massacre that was about to take place -- -- Gaza that was specifically what he was -- referencing.
And I believed colonel Peters -- you do believe.
That could have been in our national interest to stop.
I think it was unquestionably in our national interest you must take a long term view you can't think in terms of party politics and the next election.
Look had Qaddafi being permitted.
To slaughter his citizens.
With no penalty.
That would've turned the tide against the freedom movements in the Middle East.
It wouldn't stop them completely but will it would've sent.
A message to dictators throughout the Middle East and beyond its okay -- slaughter your own people when they protest -- and rise up for freedom of the west doesn't care.
And in the long run I firmly believe.
Despite the many problems we will see along the way.
That a free.
Middle East and North Africa.
Freedom make further mistakes admittedly is going to be great.
More deeply in our national interest then long term support for dictatorships and -- that well we can't get ripped it off because we don't know what might come after.
Is rather like saying well.
We have to leave Hitler in power as we don't know what replace him -- sometimes somebody just bad.
All right but there are sometimes when things get worse -- that's that's the problem I mean we you know the -- was doing some bad things said to his people over longer time but he was replaced by the Ayatollah who everybody agrees -- worst.
But the question have -- pursue -- because.
When you listen to some of the statements that Hillary Clinton made the Barack Obama made back in 20062007.
That what is happening in Iraq what is happening in Afghanistan are not in our vital interest and then you hear them say that Libya is in our vital interest what do you think.
Of course is one word to describe it but more importantly rather than just pointing the finger -- -- inconsistencies and hypocrisy.
I'm very concerned about the fact that we appear to be doing the bidding of the Islamic Republic of Iran and Libya.
Perhaps it's Iran that we should have been directing some missiles and bombs in an attempt to have a regime change with a -- -- but instead what we're doing.
As were helping to knock out a dictator that there you were opposed to and it probably helping to install some.
That they can support I think the Middle East is going to be heading from a period of kind of -- error visible as you saw the Pope post colonial.
20 extended period of -- and islamists.
And I think you're going to see some competing power -- one out of Turkey one at a tough fraud and one out of Cairo.
Andy and I are very concerned that this administration hasn't a clue about what is coming next nor how to deal with.
By the way chuck you were educated for -- of your experience in in Cairo.
What's the very latest is is there -- democratic secular government taking over there or does it look not at all Muslim Brotherhood might be moving it.
Not at all what's happened is that the young idealistic.
Democrats have found that they have been frozen out of the revolution.
And that the military has entered into a strategic partnership with the Muslim Brotherhood.
And they are going to be running the country and I think one -- the first casualties.
Of this partnership is going to be the ending of the Camp David accords that keystroke.
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