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Tonight on the dock at the budget battle on the battle in Libya this Friday April 8 the government and money.
And it was shut down of congress doesn't reach an agreement before that.
Now for those who think the feds do too much a shot I shut down sounds like paradise.
But sadly it seems that Republicans will block their fiscal responsibility.
And give in to measly cuts we'll have an answer by the end of the week.
To the war in Libya when president George W.
Bush went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan -- at least ask congress for authorization.
Even if he never got.
The lawfully required declaration of war.
And those on the left were furious at him for this but in Libya President Obama didn't even look in the direction of Capitol Hill before deciding to send the US to war.
Yet it seems that only if -- libertarians and progressives in congress are willing to speak out against this unspeakable abuse of power.
You see what the war in Libya is shelling.
Is that the vast majority of the anti war movement against Iraq and Afghanistan.
Was not a principled stand against unjust non defense of an illegal wars but simply a biased hissy fit against a Republican president.
But here now is an intellectually honest progressive member of congress.
Who believes that we have not followed the law and the -- rules of engagement in -- New York democratic congressman.
Charlie Rangel congressman Rangel welcome here good to be you know you -- -- judge usage is that you talked about the budget you talked about Libya.
No -- talked about the blocked it.
When we talked about.
We we get nobody that's -- that's history that's -- that we get to that in a minute okay some of the estimates are up to a billion dollars today.
But the president of the United States who simply.
Troops into harm's way in the planes over Libya when you guys were home working in your district offices and so called spring break and he was in.
Brazil has been back to Washington and congress has been back to Washington for a week.
Have you received any request from the president for authorization to use the military have you received a request for the president.
To bring about regime change have you received your request from the president.
For our declaration of war in Libya.
No it is true that he did said in his cabinet due to brief us as to do reasoning that he made it.
But you know -- three things -- constitution.
And every since Franklin Roosevelt the last precedent to come to the congress.
To ask for permission to engage in to war what I really don't understand judges that.
When you talk about getting used to -- -- put young people and columns way right what a sacrifice I think this is more than budget.
And if you can send one person overseas should not be able explained that his -- why he lawlessness right.
-- -- -- Where are the people who.
Condemned George Bush's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan I was against both of those wars from as you know -- libertarian perspective.
Where are the progressives.
Where are the liberals where is the anti war left where -- the principled constitutional us on the left.
Criticizing the president I've heard two Democrats you -- Dennis Kucinich that's it.
All -- a whole lot blood they don't get publicity for it because.
When you have a president you love.
What do you Republican or Democrat dale a lot of people who owe the Democrats who disagree besides Rangel and Kucinich with this use of the war powerful chairman of the Democratic Caucus.
And the ambassador around 33.
As right here from New York -- by the -- and that.
From new -- the other a lot of people.
And did they have felt I guess.
That sense the the president uses this argument.
And -- Kevin.
Use this argument.
That the president is interpreting the war powers act the same -- Presidents have been fine but that's what I agree with you the president's reform of -- and I agree with you it's just as wrong courted me that they like him.
And they agree with other things that he's done and for that reason they'll sort of give him a pass on this even though -- profoundly affects the constitutional relationship.
Between the congress on the White House.
I'd like that to be true but it's also -- fact.
That when you go and you become an American and you didn't -- -- -- -- Dolly -- kids all the the F.
You're talking about it -- -- national prestige not humanitarian.
It's can't America just come in -- simply that it's a new event next they come out and pull out -- that's you know -- And -- iron and how are -- hope your right I mean will we have boots on the ground will would be arming these people with Arnold will we be showing them how to use the equipment.
It will become the advisors we started out being in the Vietnam.
-- -- -- you in the right now on the same page but if I were to ask you.
It's a dozen Americans in this humanitarian -- let's get captured but rebels -- these people.
-- and why it would go along with the rescue mission because we have an obligation and those people those Americans -- on the green and previously agreed of course you want to Steve says saying.
Would I save that into a diamond for a dollar.
When that flag goes up.
You have an internal problem with your executive as to why you think you could put.
Americans in harm's way without getting permission.
From the people through the congress and.
When the congress remain silent because they like the president or they agree with him on other things this is a continual wearing away of the constitutional powers.
That we're given to the congress because every president will -- -- back in 2011.
-- congress let Barack Obama bombed Libya without even require anything I think it's incumbent upon the congress to say.
You asked for permission from us and if you don't ask where you're not gonna get it.
Well by that time -- already stuck into something that you embarrassed about when they already.
When they have already submitted you know peep out of harm's way but -- adding that -- lead as we talked about -- of -- if.
Outweigh other college offenses where -- intellect swing of the protectors of the constitution are.
I -- switch gears just a matter earlier today the attorney general of the United States announced that Khalid Sheikh Mohamed and the others accused of masterminding nine elevenths.
Would be tried in Cuba before military tribunals.
We've not declared war and anybody in my view we don't even have the authority for military tribunals and they should be tried in the United States district court let one of their other colleagues was we can handle anything.
Here in New York what is Charlie Rangel say.
Let's watch out because we keep it global and agreeing to -- stuff that.
You need to have no integrity but I agree that you it's that.
The -- the whole idea of Cuba being considered -- country.
That that adversaries that we already declared it will with the embargo and to go -- -- now.
With -- Castro Brothers in charge of it.
To me I don't see how you can get equity and fairness -- -- -- -- -- so now.
Without constitution gives is so that here in the United States of America congressman Rangel it is always a pleasure even when we agree and -- got back about joining.
Yes good to be back yet.
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