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Thank you very much whether the world will actually go -- is still up for debate but states are definitely riskier in the United States among them New York State where governor David Paterson is planning to cut thousands of workers are from the state payroll in January in order to save money take -- listen.
Our economy is in serious -- that the state ran out of money in December for the first time in our history.
Ran out of money again in March and has run out of money again today.
Our next guest says told you so he's former New York City mayor Ed car option and you didn't only just -- -- so you told David Paterson so.
-- dead and his position at that time was he had made a deal.
With the union four and a new -- for.
Pensions and that he had committed himself to no layoffs.
I don't happen to believe that commitment has to hold -- -- has no money but he did.
He came up with another idea which was to have furloughs which would mean that the workers -- keep their jobs.
But would be one day or 20% less in salary.
And the union said no we're going to court and they wondered before a federal court -- I thought.
Issued a decision.
Which if he weren't a federal judge I would say it was stupid but nevertheless us up he did and -- finding illnesses -- appeal -- I and so David is now doing for their next budget year what he should have done for this budget year.
It wants to save 250.
By laying off I think it's 101000.
Workers and you say that's a good thing.
Well it's a good thing -- to lay off people you gotta be sympathetic.
To them but if the state doesn't have the money why don't we have the money there because I think got a 4% increase which they wouldn't give back.
They got increases in their pension funds increases.
In their compensation.
Everywhere in the country -- you know very well people are having problems with -- union pension -- people were far too generous we know that firemen and policeman deserve a good pensions but some of them are getting over a 100% -- the last year that they were in servers they add on all of their overtime pay into their pension plan.
We just can't afford it so you have to break some contracts don't just -- -- -- record breaking contracts.
Certainly with that.
If you don't have the money you can't pay it out and if you can't get cooperation and you have to have -- that which you have the power to do.
And we always have the governors have the power to lay off people.
That's the worst.
And yet the unions wouldn't cooperate -- the union employees.
But didn't tell there -- -- union leaders.
-- -- Well we want to keep -- -- well well that's that's what I wanna ask you about a nationally we have many states including.
New Jersey where where it's the unions tour who are coming forth as we won't take this we won't take that.
How do you fight that sent well I think -- Governor Christie glided to support -- -- -- it is.
And the let me is have.
-- -- -- -- He's become the poster boy.
He said he even do these things and cut benefits of July moxie Edmonton don't feel like his marks for us -- -- hit.
But he has a Republican and and -- Democrats can do -- I did it that's the point weathered the blue dog Democrats the fiscally conservative Democrats like yourself and -- some other governors whether they've been chased out of the party.
Well I hope not but nevertheless.
The two parties are radicalized the Democrats.
-- left and two left -- like.
Consider myself left but I am a liberal -- -- team.
And I think that most people are in the middle.
Republicans and Democrats but the Republicans.
Re run by the radical just adjustable to find -- -- that you were supportive of what Chris Christie is.
Doing -- parents and I have he's doing what he has to do it.
It's what your mother told you you don't have the money -- you can't spend -- but there.
What do you -- Think of that the extreme right and the extreme left who beat up on the centrists who want to work across party wants to come out but November is gonna throw the rest goes out.
I'm in both parties I believe the people in this country.
Are so fed up not only with corruption and it's funny corruption I don't mean with -- efficiency.
Has plenty of inefficiency.
But the fact is is no common sense down there.
So where you go if if you're blue dog Democrat if you're fiscally conservative Democrat like yourself.
Where do you go sometimes might you have to jump over party lines and vote republic truly a vote on the issue.
When it comes to matters such as finance.
It's great to say we gotta have more this have more of that but if you don't have any money you can have more of anything.
I really wish that you would speak about conventions because sometimes.
People need to hear at at at and I actually had -- I've spoken to both committed but that is Q what did you get the sense from from Republicans that they that they understand that.
Of course it was a lot of spending on their side and now even more spending all right democrats' side -- no question.
George bush and attacking.
Spent money that they didn't have of the treasury or in the case of governor of attacking.
He's gained two billion dollars to the union 1199.
And it's the medical union.
My judgment a -- -- most people who know politics to get their endorsement.
Mayor Ed Koch would that all politicians had your common sense thank you very much great to see --
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