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Meanwhile back to governor Paterson and it suggested -- pink -- could be coming thanks to W you guys refusing he says to take pay cuts.
The type of fight we've seen about to battles across the country.
The more states tried to dig themselves out of all the more a lot of unions keep digging in to American Federation of Teachers president Randi Weingarten on what.
If anything would -- be glad to cough up.
When he is -- a case of unions resisting.
You know -- I've been listening to the show for quite awhile and what I think your viewers don't know because you're not telling them.
Is that the same unions that.
You've been vilifying today actually did that kind of pension reforms that you've been applauding all over the country.
Mean what they did last year is that they save the State of New York including my union when I was a local president of -- We changed the pension systems -- state employees change them to say over a billion dollars a year for New York City to -- New York State taxpayers.
And they had an action that what are also interested -- this did not have.
This this was not.
Grandfather -- in other words for those existing members they were protected so for future are and what right.
Much more women have much like auto workers who brag about concessions they've made for the new -- you're quite right.
But but the fact of the matter the deep hole this state is in and other states around.
Not exclusive because of unions -- -- case is that what they have not made adjustments.
To benefits package isn't like that more generous and may be right for the time but totally unrealistic now.
I think what's happening and governor Cody said this and I look I feel for governor Paterson.
I know quite well I've spent a lot of time toiling in New York State.
So let me just throw out the facts here.
The New York State public employees.
Have actually said to the governor.
There are a bunch of savings that they can identify they want to sit down.
Roll up their sleeves like governor Cody talked about in terms of trying to find those savings and in fact they're willing to do that right now between now and January 1.
Employees state employees have actually.
A -- -- out in the last two years so we're.
-- -- when the governor governor Paterson.
Suggested look I need.
I need some money up front I need some concessions up front.
When -- asked for furlough day out of the week from all you guys for the rest of the year you're gonna get back next year.
And they Balkans say now when now they face the possibility of losing their jobs out right is not penny wise and pound foolish.
I think -- you need to actually look at the facts in terms of New York State.
The New York State employees.
Change the pension systems as did the New York State teachers.
The New York State employees are very willing to look at over time.
Look over time I don't know and honestly look at I was actually opposition -- I'm not denying we're dismissing the fact that.
Looking forward they are making a number of concessions but the president.
The president workers the president teaches the present beneficiaries.
Have not dramatically.
Their overall they actually say that it would look if they had and they did governor Paterson a big friend of these unions wouldn't.
Looking for them to offer furlough days you know but getting them back to avoid them getting thrown out on the -- actually.
Actually -- that's frankly not the case in terms of the new York state budget.
The problem interns have been more enthusiastic widely -- that go further -- -- through.
And try to tax rich guys or try to put a surtax on top of us are takeaway -- frankly.
Frankly what of that one of the things that.
Governor Cody said.
Governor Paterson has not been able to do maybe because -- You know not running again maybe doesn't have the ability to move the assembly and the senate and you know the assembly that that the folks in the summer and they're trying very hard to get to a budget.
But what are the things.
That happened in New York by the way.
Is that shareholders actually pay -- stock transfer tax they actually pay that tax.
But what has happened is that Wall Street keeps that tax and so an -- -- feeling good about it -- that -- off the table.
When things that unions could put on the table.
And -- -- -- like the idea that is sound but they need to do more just like the main thing -- -- identity -- what they do don't ICN Randy.
I think what and I think what you're what you're seeing -- or what you're not reporting and I see it every day I talked to these folks all the time.
Public sector workers in New York State the ones that keep the water -- the ones that keep the bridge is -- the ones that.
We're -- -- -- Cuomo says are they willing to say hey there fancy sympathetic.
Right so ultimately what's gonna happen when you know whether it's you know Andrew Cuomo was governor -- whoever the next governors on January 1.
Why is going to assess what the budget situation.
Just gonna be -- about -- -- -- of the well I'd like to be there for Republican guard them well Leo what what are the things I'm very disappointed about.
Is that states throughout the nation.
Are really hurting still because this week you know even if the recession.
States lag and so one of the things that the federal government could have done and and that's part of the problem that governor Paterson is talking about today.
Is that there was some.
That was supposed to go to the states that didn't materialize.
-- so such -- idea that -- for a lot of everywhere I got to look at what they're doing.
But -- here's what I wanna do I wanna Gigabeat discusses boarded up.
Because we're looking at this exhaustively continuity is an -- one sided look at it any and all options but the -- -- and I think that's what.
And I think that's what the public employees wanna do as well everybody understands wearing a tough time and that's why they did those pension changes last year.
-- it all right Randi thank you very much for anyone to Iraq.
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