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This your eye popping cost of all of this Health Care Reform my next guest says it is all the work that you Indiana Illinois democratic congressman genachowski says we need Health Care Reform at any -- Congresswoman I I guess the argument is is it -- this cost and this burden.
Are on what is presumably a limited group for now but it's Steve's right will expanded on this group these.
Well actually I think what most Americans think about cost of their health care program they think about what is it gonna cost me.
And the fact of the matter is that.
Most Americans a majority of Americans last year.
Had to either postpone or forego.
Some kind of health care a prescription drug a visit to the doctor procedures so.
We talk about costs this is now what we're talking about the cost of the government -- taxes we're talking about.
How is this could affect my -- -- And a congresswoman I don't know what I now when Americans are -- -- -- sure they'd love to get something that they don't it's -- -- -- gonna need healthcare coverage and did not.
Not I mean -- look at and say well the rich are going to be saddled with the burden of paying up -- -- Sunday the world conference that doesn't surprise me doesn't.
Manner now that's that's -- It means that everyone is going to be able to have access to affordable accessible health care this is not a free ride for for people.
People are going to have to pay for.
The health care but they're going to be able to pay at a level that they can afford if they're low income and unable to get health insurance right now.
Don't you think they should have access to it and -- And I know that deep the hole also this doesn't end most of -- -- -- trillion dollar cost of those figures are to be believed congresswoman of -- fact of the matter it.
You got to get that money from somewhere and and and obviously that your your your those in your party leading news charges banks will get -- from the red so naturally people.
-- had seemed -- yeah that's 80% of this is coming from -- an average I don't know that's actually not true that most of it is coming from savings from the program -- -- you and I believe that we -- yeah windows say it is improving savings that have any material -- -- -- What would this cost effective and -- we're going to do it.
We're talking about the Congressional Budget Office we're talking about the experts.
That are looking -- and we actually we tried to get that the Congressional Budget Office to factor in the savings that we think we really will realize from prevention.
They won't do it they will only woman -- those theories.
My reality they got legs and -- -- others are saying we are gonna get these savings let's say you're right I hope you're right would you then tell people who are paying.
This extra millionaires where they are this extra five point 4%.
Will -- that money back or rescind the tax increase if we realize the savings.
You know I think for the majority of Americans that's what we're doing from middle class Americans.
We want to and and upper middle class Americans really want to make sure that they can afford health care so if you just stand there and say that we should not -- out like every other country in the world.
Some sort of health care right now the the private -- When you're not answer my -- I know what you're saying ma'am I'm just ask you this if you do generate this money in savings.
And many in your party argued it's anywhere from 600 million -- -- -- I don't know what the numbers.
Now the money that you hope to raise which would be the equivalent of that from the wealthy are these are taxes would you then say we don't need to do that now because we've gotten -- said.
Absolutely if we could pay for -- without any increase in revenues.
Absolutely -- what do we continue this hour to look for.
Ways that that we could pay for without doing that do you think that we're sitting around thinking how we have attacks rich people we don't want to get.
But it just squeeze any of the savings out of the Medicare program -- out of this whole plan of course that's what world were little.
I got very very nasty man is and I know your heart is in the right place are good person trying to do good -- providing health -- for those who don't have it.
Blues you know you're trying to do to be good work here I'm just saying the history of Washington good commitments -- -- that.
Lock boxes we think -- allocated for just that didn't cause have a way ability and other boxes.
And what we thought was money is shepherded to only one thing goes to a lot of other things.
And that tax increases on a group that were meant to pay for let's say in this case health care.
Go to a variety of other projects that have nothing to do in this case without.
Well I mean I that's a pretty cynical approach but I I understand that there's been some history in the past but we are at a moment in history.
We have an opportunity to say to people never again will you be denied health care because of a preexisting condition you'll not -- -- Because of health care costs which people are 60% personal bankruptcy it.
Health care costs.
This is a moment -- we can do this we're gonna do it in the fairest way possible and if we have to add some additional money that comes from the wealthiest Americans who could well -- The health care that they need that absolutely.
We learned what I notice after -- congress -- -- let me let him.
It ask -- this.
History and that's that not be your doing but that -- -- Washington suggest.
That money that's earmarked for one thing does have a nasty -- on -- -- TARP money that was supposed to help the financial institutions in disarray.
Suddenly expanded to help out auto companies all with other various good purposes I'm just saying.
Will you tell me now that the money you hope to get from the rich and whoever else.
Is going to be going to health care and health care only.
I will and I'm that a promise you that now yes the -- -- All right I -- -- I -- -- have you back if you're wrong but congressman great I -- you thank you very much thank you.
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