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-- of his -- greatest accomplishment.
It's the fortieth anniversary of Apollo eleven crews walk on the moon and now the first men on the moon I'm making a big.
Pitch for march take a left.
I think we -- To the moon and on to Mars I think we can afford it it's an investment in our future.
The Apollo technologies that we developed.
Back -- forty years ago.
Scattered across the world's economy that everyone has benefited it was a tremendous return on our investment.
Well not since nineteen -- Taylor has an American -- but on the moon yellow Mars NASA is still set to receive nearly eighteen billion dollars in funding this year.
Isn't -- it with me now it is happening -- shot.
He is a former NASA astronaut vice president astronaut safety and -- for the space transportation firm SpaceX.
Eric Andersen CEO station manager Ed editor adventure -- is make a -- space travel to the public and David Williams from the Citizens Against Government Waste policy.
Good morning gentlemen captain let me start with you.
The US last year in -- -- -- more than any other nation in space program as we talked about almost eighteen billion dollars.
Why should we continue to invest in -- back.
Well I I think the number one reason for investing in NASA is the fact that it has -- -- as -- people.
As a country United States has a very strong exploration ethnic.
That exploration -- in space travel is reflected in science and technology.
Exciting students about science and technology when they're young.
That go off and do work in other fields.
And helping us express all the energies that we have.
In inside ourselves.
In a very peaceful and productive way.
You know David when you compare.
I guess an an apples to orange -- -- the national expenditures verses and for the department to defend.
You know what we spent in the Treasury Department.
It's like a very small fraction of funds but you're still very much concerned about the -- of those funds particularly at a time like this tell me why.
Well we are concerned about the use of the funds.
And why not think about -- -- spending and funding in a different way let's look to the private sector let's look at new ways.
We've been doing -- the same way for forty plus years why not look at a different dynamic.
Why not have financial -- for the private sector to explore the moon.
Give them some sort of incentive to go to -- -- establish a base whether it's no taxes for 25 or fifty years but NASA is not a very efficient entity.
But Government Accountability Office has had some issues with them in the past so let's think outside the box and let's see if there's a different way to do this.
Introducing Erica mean look -- company.
-- for space travels to private -- friends.
Just bear market for a little too expensive what kind of experience can get if he can afford one of those trapped.
-- over our.
Experience over the last few years -- space adventures having actually flown private citizens to space -- -- actually been surprised.
At the real size of the market.
I think there are literally millions of people around the world who would love to go to space and many of whom would be willing to spend -- you know a significant portion of what they could spend.
To do that now it's very expensive today but.
I absolutely agree with both both -- the previous commentators and then that we should find new ways to do this commercial industry can do things very efficiently.
And it would really be a way to open up space in a sustainable.
And and propagating way.
-- a lot of the attention today on the hill I was talking to buzz soul train as well as senator several of the other pilots.
On Apollo twelve Apollo sixteen.
And that -- sounds like the focus has been somewhat here -- now to Mars as opposed to just.
Going back to the -- How realistic is that.
Is it possible life.
I think it's very realistic I think that in fact NASA should be doing the things that only NASA can do.
Private companies can operate in lower orbit private coverage -- -- can operate space stations we can go back to the moon.
But going to Mars is such a big an audacious goal it's probably the kind of thing that NASA should be doing.
And using that technology in the inspiration and the educational value of that mission to drive the industry and the other efforts that we have back here on -- -- in your space.
Captain I think it's important for our viewers and frankly people like me understand what we have learned from NASA.
-- can be changed the technology.
How have those innovations in those technologies contributed to other industries and perhaps we don't know.
Was accountable for but yesterday it was -- who created those opportunities.
Well I I think and the effect of -- on the economy and on other industries is actually a lot fuzzier than that.
I mean you can put that you can point out specific.
I inventions like that temper for homer are some of the other things that you hear about every day if you wanna -- -- those the NASA website a great place to go out.
But the real fact is on people on an exciting students to learn science and technology.
And then on the affected scientists and engineers.
You get on themselves from working at NASA are working with NASA.
Made they learn management processes.
And they they exercised the skills they learned in school.
I'm and then they take that to other places.
And and do even more work better work and it spreads throughout the society.
David and it's -- good point the captain makes is that worth the investment.
Well first of all.
I don't think that you know would we would still have plasma TVs we would still have temper for -- we would have all these things because.
The private sector would have found a way to that -- come up with -- so I don't think that and the captain pretty much you know alluded to that that.
You gotta have a look at -- by the way but management processes.
Is that why we have NASA is to teach them how to -- managers and not I think there are other ways to inspire kids in this country -- -- -- -- we need to spend eighteen billion dollars and if we go to Mars.
Any federal government -- project is always over budget.
So whatever the cost is now just.
Multiply that by five or six times and we will we can't afford it.
As a country we have a deficit of one point eight trillion dollars and not -- -- for the via the cut but across the board.
Everyone needs to feel spending cuts so this is not a priority in the should not be a priority for the country right now and it's unfortunate because.
Every kid grows up.
-- to be an astronaut and then walk on the moon.
But we can do it the same way since the 1960s -- -- a different way.
Let's go to the moon in a different way let's explore Mars because the federal government is not an efficient entity it never has and it never will be.
Well generally have to leave it there it's not quite nasty out of my kids do think the buzz light year.
Is is is pretty exciting himself -- out as they watch this fortieth anniversary but really we can do so.
I still hope the -- still very passionate about it that's done wonderful things for this country thanks so much.
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