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And who's been vocally exercising his right to free speech for over four decades it's my first cast my Fox News colleague and long time friend.
Host of fox news's Geraldo at Large or Robert Rivera rather welcome here at the pleasure -- it is delightful if he presided from the -- had been.
Outweigh our freedoms come from the they come from the government -- that they come from our humanity.
I think -- in an inalienable.
Rights concept that is from our humanity and I think that from the very beginning the best prospered and you know to the extent that they had extra and they were so inclined they took the others along with them.
The First Amendment doesn't grant freedom of speech.
It prevents the government from interfering with freedom of speech if the First Amendment were repealed.
Would we still have the natural right.
To speak freely no matter what the constitution said well you know it's interesting you know you have a natural right certainly but I think we both agree that in the best.
You know majority of the globe but the -- to exercise that natural right might be something that you and -- imperiled but we still have a right to speak.
No matter what the government sets.
Right and opportunity I guess there are horror or different but yes certainly and I encourage it except the you know my four year old which is talking to me and I think it's that time -- -- noted that it's -- It's it's not I thought all right you're not -- -- -- the -- about a matter how -- -- I and I -- and I have McCain the president can can the government tell us what to put into our bodies in the privacy of our own homes.
Well the government clearly does and you know I think that it is one of the great examples of government failure I've been covering the war on drugs I I think longer than any currently serving reported this -- my fortieth year.
So -- chronicled the entire war on drugs that Richard Nixon invented in 1971.
I've seen vastly north of a trillion dollars in federal tax money expended on the law enforcement model but drug enforcement has not worked and I don't think anybody disputes that it's been a failure.
Terms of the loss of life in terms of the loss of liberty in terms of the loss of tax dollars.
But from a moral point of view from natural right of human beings who own our own bodies.
Don't we have a right to put whatever chemical we want into our own bodies in our own home as long as no one else has harmed by that.
But the last phrase that what you said is -- giant -- -- -- there -- children there there are others affected by you or your recklessness that's the same as when you have a cocktail at that their children I I I agree and I think that they are they are all the time.
Now in my view the morality of it is something that's deeply personal.
As long as it affects you -- mean and the conditions that you describe I certainly would legalize.
Vastly all drugs.
And ask only that people give their own internal.
Informed consent even Governor Sarah Palin when she was here said she's not in favor of legalizing recreational drugs she's in favor of the police not.
Prosecuting people for that because they have better things to do -- Governor Palin had it exactly right I mean cops have a lot better things to do than -- your window seat is smoking a joint upstairs what's in the NBA -- have been in favor of the of the right to use marijuana in in one's home you know I am and continue to be absolutely.
Have you ever used marijuana IEA IE not only had used marijuana but I think I have the distinction of having used marijuana on.
International television have you used marijuana on set on another network before you here at fox SI I have your honor now we have another batch of -- -- -- Struck it.
When and where was that.
I had my groundbreaking show -- Letterman.
You know -- Saturday Night Live called goodnight America on the ABC network.
And NYU is doing some experiments in those days it was much more liberal than it ultimately -- team.
During the just say no era and they -- I was and I went down to NYU and in an environment I think that could be arguably or at least -- to to be.
Legal I I didn't do.
I don't know of the world knows that you are truly is libertarian as you're telling us today that you lost what I am I'm a libertarian and it in -- in have been.
Vast away -- sense that absolutely in a sense of I want to be left alone and I I think that it is that there is a right to issues.
In terms of abortion to get to something far more I think a controversial than drug use I think there is a right to choose but there has to be certain limitations based on science.
And he Roe vs.
Wade was a good decision -- I don't I don't -- or -- -- or edit it will be here all day -- that you have a right to choose to put what you want into your body and your house you'd do under the conditions that you described but not all drugs that created equally.
All right -- since it do you have a right to commit suicide.
It now I I guess you do but I worry about don't we own our own bodies -- -- if we do in general broad strokes absolutely -- honor and.
And I don't wanna someone -- let's switch gears because we have a time limitation.
Last week on this show congressman Dana Rohrabacher.
Conservative Republican from south I know -- good -- -- dummy was once a speechwriter for Ronald Reagan.
Told us that he had said previously in another forum.
That all Republican members of the House of Representatives.
Felt that the war in Iraq was a mistake.
I may have -- characterize what he said as immoral or illegal but he didn't say that.
He said the war in Iraq was a mistake if he's right.
That others believe that how could that be how could that be such a sea change.
In the thinking of those who most ardently supported the war when George Bush asked for it that they now think it was a mistake.
Would judge you know that once you start the drumbeat and once you invoked the words like patriotism.
It really -- skew -- people's individual.
And I think it really does divert them from their own principles.
I remember my misgivings about Iraq in 2000 -- why because I'd been in Afghanistan through it since 2001.
Right and in Afghanistan when the war broke out in Iraq I could sense that the attention we pay two or Afghanistan was shifting.
And against an enemy who had nothing to do it 9/11 and I thought that the jingoism and the I I think it really.
I think that patriotism can often be the last refuge of scout okay you know -- that's a phrase -- which we're all familiar do you now think that the ferocity of the war.
With with -- with which it was fought was a mistake do you think our presence there was a mistake do you think we should have gone into Afghanistan.
But more aggressive -- I've been around so long I don't mean I don't second guess history really I really try I try my best not to I hope that -- Iraq and out okay.
I have seen the sacrifice at pictures on my wall my office of me and dead soldiers that their parents and after they're gone.
Before I let you go.
You finish this segment a little later on the show we're gonna talk about.
Nullification Tom what's this book great book arguing.
That the states can nullify unconstitutional.
Federal laws that you think the states have a right to do that I think that.
When when you get down to what states can or can't do Chris Christie is doing the best job of anybody in this country right now I love on the about governor Arnold is governor Arnold -- New Jersey I like what Schwarzenegger did about.
The top two finishers of the people who run for the finals -- like.
What -- what David Patterson are much disgraced.
-- lame duck governor in New York is doing in terms of nullifying these union deals that are so.
You you you serious but if the feds encroach on fundamental liberty -- in the states nullify what it was a court afforded judge suppose suppose the federal government limited the number of I'm just gonna come up with a crazy.
Methodical here Hispanics I can live in New Jersey I put the legislature -- -- Jersey say forget about I don't know what all of us -- social engineering is the worst thing the government the government can do generally speaking although I think that -- Rand Paul was wrong to say the Civil Rights Act should not been passed.
In terms of what its impact was on the private sector I think that he.
He gives much too much credit.
To the good nature -- they could sensibilities or content or this is this is where we -- you're more in favor of the federal government regulating behavior on private property.
Whereas I'm more in favor of free market if you characterize it that -- which I don't think is exactly the way I might Geraldo Rivera though it's a pleasure thanks for --
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