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Thought there was a pretty.
Question and answer that he was.
Give a response to and he didn't admit a mistake and I think you saw that he's trying to walk it back now but I think Kaplan the president proves once again when these controversies pop up.
That it's good to focus in on the facts and not the race of the people involved in the controversy.
And like assailant presence trying to trying to make up for that now and and refocus attention but.
It it certainly.
It's certainly got a lot of attention and then -- for a lot a lot of the wrong reasons and it's unfortunate that.
You know people have to jump up and takes to make accusations and so -- was something like this.
I think that professor.
Professor gates made made a big deal out of something that shouldn't have been a big deal -- Than the racial politics you know -- and deploy immediately.
Well you don't -- I guess you're right we could go on on talking about the legalities of the case and I don't know who said what and what it whether sorry is it.
The right thing to say now what we do know for now as the business -- at least here at fox is that it certainly slowing if not totally wiping out.
Any debate or even discussion of health care and and and being as the president was losing momentum on this.
Even among blue dog Democrats in the house and others in the senate who have been arguing that the cost to this thing we're getting out of control.
This is not a welcome development I suspect.
No I think I think his health care problems of course are much bigger than that I think that that.
Is is growing for him regardless of -- so there.
Issue you have the the more liberal element of the Democratic Party fighting with.
The blue dog you have apparently Henry Waxman stalking out of Nancy Pelosi is -- you have.
The leader threatening to go over the committees didn't take a vote right to the floor and pointing fingers back and four of -- congressman Jim Cooper of Tennessee was grossly we were not getting the -- the right kind of democratic leadership and it was a mistake for the president.
To put it in the hands of -- of the congressional leaders to.
To work out and then all of that so he's got a big mess on his but primarily it's due to the underlying weakness of the legislation is trying to get through him.
We've got to have an outbreak of common sense around the country and people are looking at the details of this and I would affect them and they don't like what -- -- it.
Let me talk a little bit about just the details when it comes to cause it was a controversial meeting at the white -- -- early this week senator.
With the CBO director and Oval Office with the president.
Now Alice Rivlin the first CBO directors since she didn't find anything unusual would that but she did say the appearance could be there that others would.
It this is the CBO director has said that the savings from this wouldn't be realized and that -- -- -- This will contribute to the deficit.
The drip drip of this type of news.
And and and did -- did it in an -- and fighting even among my cassette with Waxman storming out of this meeting we heard about this as well.
Where is this going what's your prediction about at least the president's initiative on health care.
Well I think he's got real problems with regard to lead to a broad sweeping federal government involvement type approach of these bills of that have been working in the committee's present.
I think that CBO situation kind of to put is the whole problem of them they've gotten around.
And basically as one of of credibility you got present United States saying they were gonna pass this tremendous.
-- large new entitlement program and we're gonna save money by doing that.
People know that that's not -- to work people know that it will increase the deficit it will raise.
It's it's going to -- Private insurer -- -- out of business it's going to cause doctors to go out of the practices.
They get rather than they get savings all put on the call stood -- overwhelmed their backs and and making lesson and unless money it's going to harm.
Innovation -- innovations that are keeping us a lot of longer and and and helping us -- various diseases you know we have such.
Such better treatment and evidence such better results -- long jeopardy than these other countries with socialized medicine on things like cancer.
And then you know that's not to and and and that people understand that you can have more of something and and and pay less for it and.
But you know senator Hillary took a very good house in the present -- equivalent John -- those assertions about the quality and here that would be compromised how many would get exposed and -- care -- when I literally out of it and I didn't have the details of those was right on that if you don't mind.
I'd like to be get a little personal with you and I'm concerned and -- slam but.
You you you you -- You know what floor I was a near death battle with that would that that was pretty serious disease.
You came out of that you continue to good -- London oil was near death funerals -- the Ronald that hey guys are all I know it's your lives and you're doing while it's still going to a lot of both sides here.
Yeah not -- where you are now -- you are and you're in this position to keep.
To keep up the good fight to keep you know reminding others that you're you're alive and well and I'm gone anywhere in your gonna continue to speak out.
God bless you for that now what I'm gonna ask you was whether.
You think that any of that would have been compromised under different health system or that you -- there today in making this fight.
Precisely because of the system we have now.
No I've I've been I've been talking about that and you know Jerry.
Been talking about this healthcare situation -- For a long time in this debate and kind of breaking down what the president says these press conference as you go -- over -- some detail and and showing the shortcomings of it and and -- what's at stake console war.
I haven't really talked about my own personal situation -- I mean.
Social you you've been brash enough to bring it up so and.
I'll talk about it on Hannity and had -- don't don't go jumping -- with me now remember when you're -- when you came out -- -- about it I was very fortunate to be.
Divorces or talk to about it I don't know I -- But I don't know I don't mean anything.
Respect but -- on this I'm talking -- -- bar recently on the radio I would rather than 100 molecular -- I know and you never did but I I do if you don't mind because I have well people who haven't dealt with stuff like this.
What are you don't look so content in a different system that's what I meant.
Not without -- -- not -- the you know my own situation I was forced him out of Dublin on coma that was there was envelopes.
And in my case.
They have a -- drug -- right Thompson.
They the oh only develop about and got approvals and so -- about six years ago.
So I took -- treatment of -- and been a few years now -- you know it's.
I'm in I'm in total remission and check up to two days ago and so what.
But the corner of that is we spend billions of billions of about sixty billion dollars I think in this country own research and development every year for new drugs and things like that.
Part of of what we're sitting in the rising cost of health care is this.
Now there's -- and there's other things that need to be taken care of I don't know why presence -- solution no I don't know why we haven't already implemented problems particular waste fraud and abuse.
But that's another story.
But we we can't town of modern day medicine at 1950s prices some of the stuff costs more we have to consider what what it's worth.
What's it wants to stay -- a little longer.
Like to thank you on the life and death case and not my my situation but I only have a loved one or maybe maybe a little bit later on you know.
And I personally am not want if I'm very very old and hopelessly ill you know it.
Good vulnerable spend a lot of my family's money on that but.
Not my decision to make hopefully the prominent position to.
To do -- thing about it.
We we can't turn our back on the innovation that we provide for the rest of the world if we wanna continue to have these -- -- good results and the.
See Senator Clinton as your son or I understand the running here that is -- -- O'Neal is scaring -- -- it's doing is saying.
They -- they would be there help there in the quality elderly compromise -- the system or worse yet people whose lives were saved because of great therapies.
Would be dead now if they didn't have -- I know you're not saying that in this case not just you know once they didn't fitness America that Republicans say are you are our leading.
Are there inexact and don't mean that not -- -- -- are doing exactly that.
If I think that I think it would cost lives.
I think that.
And you you have investors they're willing to invest billions of dollars on these things -- it takes for years and years for approval and and so forth.
And it's not just the elderly you know it's children and so -- we have leukemia -- things now that they can do wonderful things with that they couldn't before.
I'm not this at all I would stop like that -- -- when you don't know of when you don't win when you don't make it work.
-- to go through all that process and spend all that money it's not gonna happen nearly all the way.
But it's happening now and that's one of the things as we ratchet down.
You know these costs and and then and the federal government not people and a free market making their own decisions.
But a federal government decides.
You know how much -- is worth and at what point we're gonna cut off that kind of the treatment for a person and things like that are visible.
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