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Will we see a deal on health care in that senate before time runs out let's talk about it with senator Robert Bennett of Utah -- senator thank you for joining us thank you.
Well what can we ask you do you think there will be some type of deal some type of opportunity to get some headway here are now.
Well do you mean before the -- the answer is clearly -- the reason is is gonna take place.
Probably at sundown houses -- being gone for a week.
So no we're not gonna have any kind of thing out.
Prior to the -- now that debating if you can call it that outside of chambers -- getting pretty rancorous -- mean you have the president.
Calling the grass roots protest movements Astro turf.
You have Nancy Pelosi using even even tougher terminology to referring.
-- protests that have been taking place at these town hall meetings.
Do you think this is a genuine grassroots movement against massive change in health care or is it Astro -- as the president -- Always genuine the question is how broad.
Is it a representation does -- have that is not orchestrated it's happening spontaneously.
And the challenge that they're facing -- they have these negotiations.
Is that they're talking all around the major problem.
And the major problem is how much is this thing going to cost.
We keep getting told well we're working on or we're gonna find some paid paid for we're going to find some -- six.
That's beltway talk.
Offsets mean to take money away from something else to put money here.
If you're gonna have real Health Care Reform the health care costs themselves have to go down.
They don't have to be paid for by somebody else if they're paid for by somebody else that means that continue to go up.
And they're not accomplishing what the president promised that they would accomplish you've got to have a reform that saves money in the health care system.
And if you don't do that the CBO is gonna continue to talk trillions of dollars and people are gonna continue to protest against.
Senator if you in the GOP succeed in beating this concept down and beating it back and it fails and we were left with nothing.
-- a victory that would make you pleased or is it somewhat of a pyrrhic victory in that we're we're left with rubble here we still have 46 million uninsured Americans.
I can we start all over what do you think.
Well number one day I do not want to -- I want a solution.
And I think the -- majority if not a 100% of Republicans.
Ultimately want a solution.
But in your question I think you focused on the wrong thing and that's one of the reasons we're having so much trouble you focused on those who are uninsured.
All right if the whole primary -- activity -- to cover those that are uninsured.
With the present system.
Or some variation of the present system that means you're gonna add costs to the present system my position is the present system isn't working.
And if we focus on making the present system work we get the cost down and guess what.
As a byproduct of making this the junking the present system and doing something intelligently place.
Both 46 million are gonna get coverage that's a byproduct of doing this thing right and it is the focus on that.
That is causing us to do -- wrong.
Well senator the present system may not be working in some areas but a lot of the small business people we've been just talking to in the middle sized business people say.
We don't want massive change to create a new government insurance company government run and operated pay for insurance company.
Without some insurance of our -- that -- not gonna have to pay a price is gonna drive us out of business you used it.
To run a business Franklin Franklin international which started from four grew into a thousand.
Aren't you concerned about the small and midsized companies that may be destroyed by this.
And I am with them in everything that you of this quoted them as saying.
But the -- option is not a government run plan.
Getting rid of the present system doesn't mean going to a government run plan he's going to and -- true market.
In health care which we don't have today.
Right now health care is the only place and it's about 70%.
Where the personality.
The entity that receives the goods and services.
Doesn't control the money that pays for the goods and services the money's being controlled by some third party.
-- -- the employer in the case of the employer based system and insurance company in association.
Or overwhelmingly the government itself.
We've got to get into a circumstance where the people who are getting the goods and services control the money that pays for the goods and services.
They will start to make choices they will start to create pressures within the marketplace bring the cost down.
Raise the quality out.
And in the process as I say cover the uninsured.
That is a system that's that the base of the the bill that senator Wyden and -- introduced we have twelve co sponsors on it now Republicans as well as Democrats.
And a number of places of editorialized on this favorably.
But because it is not just tinkering with the present system we don't seem to be able to get the committee's.
To pay any attention to I think as they begin to look at their costs.
They're starting to pay attention to it because we have a score that says.
Our plan will not only cover everybody in the United States that it will save one point three trillion dollars over the next ten years.
Nothing the president nor the congress is talking about could do that well.
We like the idea of bipartisan ideas so keep us posted and then we'll follow it Robert Bennett is senator and -- them thank you very much enjoy your vacation.
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