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Arizona had the very center of the immigration debate but twice 500 miles away in our country's tiny -- state.
There's already an even tougher stance on illegal immigrants yes that's a term.
Time there it's fact -- of 2008 that's when.
Rhode Island governor -- cherry issued an executive order mandating immigration checks and all -- new state workers on top of that.
State police report all illegal immigrants to federal immigration officials.
The governor -- Jerry joins me now sir sir I haven't heard what has been going on in Rhode Island until now.
Players have been paying a lot of attention -- I think what I put that executive order in action there was a whole lot of concern about it.
-- -- what we're trying to do is just a few rational things.
You know I think that that they all the people I heard them play and had earlier with Lou Dobbs -- I grew up mostly.
The rational people are tracked in fact the illegals as well as the employers and irrational people right now federal government.
-- we need to secure the border there's no sense of confidence that the federal government has any kind of control over.
The flow of people coming into this country illegally.
You know my grandparents immigrated here from both Italy and Sweden -- they came through a process.
And that's what you need them and I think the other thing is we need more you verify what I put in place an executive order was that.
But also for anybody doing business with the state and -- contractors doing business with the state.
And an addition as you point out.
Asked the state police scanner and what's called 287 G but a memory -- memorandum of understanding.
-- -- in terms of smoothing out the process -- -- that I.
Your reaction and the Hispanic and Latino community.
Our there was a lot at at the beginning there was all kinds are concerned that -- -- be racial profiling that this was singling out.
Certain part of the community.
We have an anti racial profiling law on the books in the -- there -- -- reaction now -- -- any backlash right now.
Well it's been two years now and I think like everything else that bit there's there's still -- -- use people just do what we don't don't want there are some people who don't want anybody.
Including the state to be.
Does anybody in the state.
Law enforcement or local law enforcement pulled over anybody illegally or wrongfully.
No we had a case just recently actually two years ago and I actually in 2006.
The case occurred.
Where the state police -- actually stopped the -- turned out there -- fourteen of fifteen people in the van and I'm I'm almost courses stop the very end because of a traffic violation.
In the normal course found -- that are number of people in the van that -- -- no documentation whatever.
The state police then contacted ice.
And and did the the regular process now we were taken to court by those fourteen or -- by the ACL you know.
In that effort we won that case in is the federal district caught.
That they appealed it to the first circuit appeals court we won it again.
So that the right of the state police -- Well Rossellini and thank you were rather long rally pulling people aside as -- they've been caught wrongfully doing pulling people's side.
No not to have to do that does not as has happened -- and 99 to a 199 point 9% of the cases.
In the normal course of activity stop somebody for some other reason is there traffic violation potential criminal activity or whatever it is.
And of course of that.
Ascertain and they are rightfully aren't able to ascertain.
Whether somebody's document and -- their illegal have their illegal then that information is passed ice they have a whole computer system as you know.
One of the things -- -- when I got into this a lot of some overall local law enforcement community not the state.
Troopers but the local law enforcement were not aware.
That ice has -- highly automated computerized system where you can check anybody -- you know virtually instantaneously.
So we're trying to encourage more of that to be euros.
You know governor -- -- one other question I have for you before we go.
When these individual -- illegal immigrants are caught.
-- they understand that they broke the law on their kind of you know embarrassed about and except that.
Well I I think your first -- absolutely they do they know they are here illegally.
You know and they're not supposed to be here.
That's why the you know there there -- employed the way -- are employed in the way they operate they understand that.
Listen everybody what I understand a word great country that people wanna come through the -- -- the future for themselves.
But no country can survive long term if we don't have controls over -- slows them.
I'm a believer actually -- work permits are.
In a system that allows us to bring people in.
Because we're going to need that kind of the labor force if you will that help.
When the economy comes back right now we got a lot of people out of work -- -- Thank you got Annika -- governor RI thank you slightly letter tonight fire.
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