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He's in Arizona and it so now Arizona has passed its own immigration law you've heard about that everyone seems to have an opinion about it.
Polls show most Americans support it.
And Russell pierce certainly supports that he's the state senator who sponsored the bill and he joins us from Arizona.
Nick Gillespie is the editor in chief of reason TV he says Pierce's law is misguided.
This guy did -- why.
-- I think for at least three reasons first constitutionally.
It is misguided if there is one function.
Of the federal government it has something to do with defining citizenship and welcome in the van order weren't -- -- -- -- -- that's actually not quite right and even if it is that doesn't mean that states get to change citizenship laws which the Arizona law does that are actually heroes -- two point -- That aren't in federal law it's a bad use of police resources the X police chief of Mesa, Arizona the current police chief of Phoenix.
Could the national group of major city police chief says this takes police -- police away from.
Doing the type of thing that actually stops local crime against that when you turn them into.
Immigration officers people clam up this it's not a good use police resources.
And on the far left.
Get to your final one -- a moment and and let your opponent respond I mean I also talked to the police organizations and they said the same kind of thing that.
The illegals -- going to cooperate with you if they might get deported for talk and he is such misinformation.
The Arizona police association the largest in the state of -- -- endorsed this bill the finish Laporte association endorses bill.
The fraternal order of police endorsed this bill not out of fifteen sheriffs and devotion and endorses bill.
That the Border Patrol endorses the federal and we -- -- a second -- talk more of the Phoenix police chief he says it takes off -- -- put the political appointee for an open border and -- -- You know the only way to make your decision -- 18700 out there.
You're saying that -- regular coffee nexus and anarchist what you what your evidence we absolutely agree -- that -- -- could be -- not everybody that wants to enforce the law -- -- enough is enough let's let's face facts.
Again -- the police the boots on the ground use that term.
Have endorsed this bill overwhelmingly loudly debated the bill and get we did you write new laws and yes I have never been -- -- -- -- The stakes have never been preempted from enforcing federal law -- not regulating where fortune bend a rule of law for fifty years been the law of the land.
But all of a sudden we -- somebody would like to think Arizona -- illegally illegal.
Actually got my dollar went to again what you don't -- It was not a crime not a race is a crime 1212 Phoenix police officers killed and maimed by a regulating apparently that's collateral damage to some -- -- -- Actually what that is collateral damages and in the drug war everybody knows that all of the ransom kidnappings in Phoenix or directly related to.
Drug cartels which has to do with -- -- -- -- anything that you -- -- have been -- thing to do with you whether -- the legal -- -- and illegally and -- or -- I don't -- to Arizona for a hundred you have an issue.
I -- our -- -- -- at issue here but Alitalia broccoli inside your necklace.
-- murdered Ron prince who murdered during the debate -- 1070.
But then that's okay I mean yeah that's that's our current cost Russell Russell senate and billionaires don't speak out again and wanted to incarcerate example and don't say no -- trial I've got to listen -- currently access last spring and the politicians talking about this we have.
Many people are saying -- Arizona has the -- -- first here's the governor.
We have been under siege and we're not we cannot put up -- that we cannot tolerate it.
And I would -- everything in my power to make sure that the people of Arizona are safe and they feel sick here and that's illegal traffic traffic is stopped.
That Arizona over the past spectators in about a 20% through a decline in violent crime in about a 20% decline in property crime -- well.
In fact even illegal crossings are down from the peak in 2000 -- at 600 to about 200 but we'll just -- -- it's just -- little -- -- the problem I'm sorry can I finish.
This is the basic problem -- this -- little fundamental problem with with this law is that it does nothing to address a very basic mismatch between the demand.
For people coming into this country and just.
He finds it once let's just talk -- for a moment Russell obviously this crime is down and that's my -- -- today.
We have a grand -- -- in border states biology isn't down in those areas where the illegal aliens involved in crime.
Every study that compared to -- city to a -- a -- or you know similar non border city finds that the -- you know.
Are actually last August or less crime ridden places like -- -- True -- -- secular across the border already approval history 40%.
What's come across the border to dinner he's the drug traffic gains that he'll look smugglers the child molest wise -- -- down.
Ever since -- -- -- -- that why in a in a decade where illegal immigration is up overall we actually see declines in every type of crime that you know there.
That's not true thank you state senator Russell Pearce sponsored the Arizona immigration bill and then -- no -- speak of reason magazine.
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