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One way or another -- right now we want to bring in former senator Ted Kaufman from Delaware who can weigh in on what.
Possibly is history in the making senator it's so good to see you on this day that he is at -- is it time.
Right now for -- Mubarak to resign to step down.
Well you know that it sounds like he's getting -- do it seems like it a good time.
This is this is always difficult.
Because of the dollars and Egypt and -- -- most of it is there Mubarak was filled time.
But -- always stuck in this in this problem -- you know Mubarak has been very helpful to the United States and everyone in terms of bringing long piece in the -- But the same time you have when I talk to people in Egypt they were very upset about the way the last elections -- -- -- There are very upset about the run up for the presidential elections.
So if you're someone who believes like I do like you do in so many Americans do about.
-- -- the press and freedom to assemble and freedom of speech and all these kinds of things fairly.
If this goes forward.
This could be a victory for for that so it's kind of that.
Always difficult to to come out with.
With what's the best thing but -- clearly in this case.
Hi I'm pretty sure he is going to be leaving the military's -- one of the concerns and all these things is that if the military does take over -- day.
Will in fact turn back to the people.
Right now that's the thing -- -- you you're right to point out senator that this is a complicated situation here and what's happening in in eighty shifted into that -- What would you say about the way the United States is handled that there's some of the mountain -- that the administration should have you just step back more on what developments.
Kind of take care of themselves and others say no they should have been more aggressive than they work in pushing Mubarak to leave office sooner what's your view.
Look I'm a Democrat Democrat administration obviously one of my very good friends vice president Joseph Biden's -- -- suspect.
But I think they Hamlet just right and I would say that -- a democratic administration colonization and everything else this is so much about diplomacy.
And and operate behind the scenes and I think they made it clear to America you'd have to be stoned.
Not to understand if you were in this in Egypt right now the United States and leadership United States wanted this to move on this time from American move on.
But the problem with a we have over there is the extent did you go public we have impact on what goes on there's a lot of people there -- not happy with the fact that we supportive -- -- To the extent that whatever we say is not going to be taken away it was taken maybe 3040 years ago.
-- many egyptians and I've talked to many many.
Egyptians they still think the United States is shining city on the hill I personally -- -- on the -- But if you have you been a victim of Mubarak's.
Regime -- -- -- have the same person I think they handled it.
Just -- Senator but you -- you pointed out -- the election is the best thing that can happen.
It Mubarak does step down and then between now.
And the election is to ensure.
Take that energy that you see in the streets but the guards over the Internet an -- -- and direct that energy into the elections come September.
Yeah but remember the other thing day in this is one of the mistakes we made a number of times especially at least this is to our former -- about a lot more than elections.
We have elections in the majority gets in and make first minority.
This is about freedom of speech freedom of press this they have the freedom and rights of minorities and I'm not talking about.
You know ethnic -- -- -- -- any kind of you know I asked him diversity tonight I'm an artist in terms of political and ours.
-- it's a very difficult time.
In Egypt right now and and the other thing is to remember is a Muslim Brotherhood is a very small minority in Egypt.
But remember they -- -- one of the most famous revolutions -- history the Bolsheviks.
In the Russian revolution didn't take power right away but they were a very dedicated minority.
And they took over the Russian government so there's a buried -- got the army here you've got the people that.
In the streets you have the Muslim Brotherhood and somewhat radical Islamic movements over there.
This is a very different -- to the week and I'm sure that that our administration was pushing for not just elections.
But that there be a freedom of the press which is nice system needs of the -- freedom of speech of the freedom of assembly.
And all the things that you need in order to have a real action and also that everybody available to spend more more in the Middle East.
In other countries what they're doing is the way they're being successful it is they're limiting who can.
-- been participate in the election so.
It's a it's a very complex through I think it's it's it's a good thing for those of us who really care about.
Freedom around the world and promoting -- room.
Senator thanks so much for being here great to see you as always senator Ted -- -- -- -- --
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