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-- Other you can ever imagine.
In no matter what you think about this story is still is when the saddest things to see when that when a child -- to parents and that was Michael Jackson's daughter Paris.
Who provided one of the biggest surprises many say of yesterday's public memorial.
That ceremony was watched by millions around the world of course we don't know -- -- final numbers on that yet.
More may soon -- spend millions of dollars on a DVD of the ceremony not three minutes after the ceremony was over yesterday three postings on Craig's list.
I featured sales of -- bootleg copy of this memorial on dvd for upwards of thirty dollars this as well as word.
-- that Jackson's concert promoter AEG may offer a dvd -- reports say there were up to seven additional cameras yesterday documenting the entire.
Thanks so for more on this story and joins us from Los Angeles bye season all the senior reporter with video business.
And in San Francisco Ken Stein hall he's a senior partner at the law -- whale got -- Who specializes in music and media writes is -- -- we showbiz bootleg copies out how.
And and do you think.
-- legitimate copy -- actually cannot do we expect that to happen will it come from AG.
It's definitely their best interest to get something out in -- YA that way I mean it's all finding good afternoon he gave it.
Not everyone is gonna you know look there for a dvd but if they're able to get their act together and put something out and on Wal-Mart or target.
I think -- would be a lot of demand.
TV ratings will likely come out today on that on the -- but we know that I'm ten million people tuned in watched the funeral on line.
And that actually gets close to the the fourteen million people that tuned -- to -- out Obama inaugurated.
So I think that there is seeing a tremendous demand for this on.
-- -- -- Sir as a fascinating comparison between Michael Jackson memorial they met people that watch there and -- president Obama's inauguration in -- if a dvd would come out who is the -- that dvd.
That's as well -- has all -- -- that's for -- I'm sorry is that.
The the the dvd is what we -- on audiovisual work which is copyright -- such.
And it's typically owned by the entity here -- that produces.
The actual program.
But underlying the actual production in order to have an authorized production there are many different kinds of releases and licenses that have to be secured.
So in essence all of the songs.
That were -- during the course of the memorial.
There is a a right to the underlying composition.
Which needs to be licensed in order to make the dvd itself and distribute it.
Now does that -- actually harvested south for example Mariah Carey sang to show that -- AEG have to go back to her for the rights on that or do they have to go back to the family because it was a family memorial for family member.
Put aside the family for a minute because they don't have any copyright rights in the program they have rights of publicity arguably.
I'm but they don't have any copyright writes the music.
There are two core of copyright rights that have to be -- when you make a production like this.
One is in the underlying composition what's typically called the publishing rights and the other is in the actual recorded version of a song the sound recording.
And the sound recording rights are typically owned by.
The record companies to whom the artist assigned.
So in this program itself.
In order to make a fully authorized copy you would need to get the publishing rights -- -- not necessarily owned by Michael Jackson himself.
Michael Jackson wrote a lot of his own music.
But there are other compositions like thriller and others like that.
That are controlled by people like -- temperature and who wrote it and his publisher so I am so you.
I think let me happy -- for -- second so do you believe in a situation like this would AEG go to the artist before the memorial errors and gets.
I get the rights for that how likely do you think it is that they did that already.
Or have to go back around and do it again if they want to release -- -- I think it's normal and for a production company like -- EG to get waivers some sort of authorization.
I'm from the record companies to on the artists are signed.
As well as from the publishers and advance.
Failing to do that the clearances after the fact often much more difficult which is why and many of these situations you find that the proceeds go to charity.
Where it's a lot easier to get the consent of the record companies and the and the publishers.
If you're -- -- why not a lot of non for profit.
Go ahead and is gonna had he has not had -- ferret out a lot of our companies have also learned their lesson from releasing TV on dvd.
Where on the music.
That has been on TV shows if they don't secure those rights you know ahead -- time.
It's just asked astronomical and trying to get those back out onto dvds so I think he's definitely right that.
A lot of this was probably discussed before hand just -- snowing in anticipation of people whining and official copy of the funeral.
What can it can specializes in music and media rights which is that that's great great to have your expertise can really quick on this committee think is -- the most likely to profit from that these after -- Michael Jackson's passing.
Well I I think he can see already that the boost in record sales with Michael's death.
So whenever -- record sold the main beneficiaries are the record company itself.
And Michael's -- albums were typically released on Sony music.
Com and the publishing companies.
With respect to the compositions imbedded in those albums so they're benefiting quite a bit the publishers on the record companies.
By the increase sales on the DVD.
Again if it's authorized.
And it's going to be sold for profit -- she is the owner of the dvd would that we're talking about it that's the way it's gonna be done.
Would benefit as would.
The record companies and artists Sen and publishers to the extent that my chances are secured from now.
Right Ken and I can Susan great to have your perspective -- pre.
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