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-- covering both sides of the aisle when it comes to Washington's efforts to hammer out Health Care Reform.
Joining me now in another first on Fox Business interview from Capitol Hill democratic senator Kent Conrad.
Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee welcome sir thank you for being with us good to be with you.
Well the news of the day up in the wake of the Republican senator Jim Bunning blocking legislation that extends jobless benefits and pays for highway projects he and senator Harry Reid.
Cut verbally -- the bit about it this morning.
Senator Bunning saying he's concerned about -- the deficit higher and deeper but but here's the question is is what he's doing the best way to deal with that and do you understand especially when.
Pay go being given even dried on that -- already terrorism.
Some breakage of it you know what -- -- I think people are waiting to see when will really hold our feet to the fire when it comes to saving money.
Let me say that -- -- provides for emergency designations.
Insurance has been extended through an emergency designation.
That does not required to be paid for.
The economic -- you don't want to raise taxes or cut spending in the midst of an economic downturn to pay for extending unemployment insurance so.
I believe on the economics of -- senator Bunning has it wrong.
He certainly has a right to object.
-- unanimous consent request but I personally believe on the economics of it he's got it wrong.
I also believe in the long term we've got to pivot and focus on deficit debt reduction that's why.
Along with senator Gregg the ranking Republican on the budget -- I've advocated.
The creation of a commission to deal without -- Okay.
Now I need to get to health care the president is going to roll out a new strategy in a speech tomorrow that pushes through health care legislation.
What do you think will be the next move from President Obama everybody talks about reconciliation which in essence leaves out the Republicans what do you think.
You know I've said this entire year.
That I don't believe reconciliation.
Can be used to advance comprehensive Health Care Reform.
It will not work -- -- and they will not because there are certain rules that apply to reconciliation.
First and foremost is the bird rule.
That says anything that does not score for budget purposes has to be left out.
That would mean leaving out -- really the most important parts of this legislation insurance reform.
The reform of the delivery system to change the incentives.
So that we're paying for outcomes rather than procedures.
The health care experts say those are the most important provisions.
Under the rules of reconciliation those should be left on the cutting room floor so it just doesn't work for comprehensive health care legislation and the irony here is it's not necessary the senate is already passed without using reconciliation.
That is now before the House of Representatives and the bill passed in the senate with a super majority with sixty votes.
It's now pending in the house -- the house passes it goes to the president for signature.
Really the only role left for a reconciliation.
Is its traditional role which is.
To reconcile the differences to make improvements in the package through.
Dealing with making the bill more affordable.
Changing the Medicare.
Revisions to make them better.
And that is very much in the traditional line of reconciliation.
Well if for no other reason this is an interesting civics lesson as each day goes by would you please join us again senator we appreciate you coming on I don't was last -- you were rushing from.
Somewhere else but thank you so much.
You've got good to be with you anytime senator Kent Conrad of North Dakota senate reconciliation to.
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