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All right opera now we have to go on those bullet -- -- to be there and Max Baucus has its advantage -- that is so.
He has -- further -- his bullet points than any one else.
-- number of his -- concerned at what he's shooting with those bullets.
And not just Republican colleagues would -- to democratic senator Mark Warner supports the baucus bill but.
He has warned about the cost of -- colleagues.
Senator to have you thanks again.
-- -- thanks for having me on soul.
It's 200 page sort of -- marked up bill and I guess we have the broad outlines of what will be held there without public option analyst.
How can we know what is in -- out with so much is yet to be -- You know I mean I hurts me earlier comments.
I'm a new guy here on the new senator I know you -- that's what -- building can be really -- fun -- -- -- and it didn't you know in some of this stuff seems a little bizarre to me but it's not -- All of a sudden this process is different than.
The same way that you know when the Republicans were in charge when the Democrats are charged and -- absolutely right you're absolutely right level you know at some level you gotta say.
Not everybody in Washington.
Regardless of party is trying to pull a fast one on the American people I think that most people the congressional budget office for example.
Has scored this bill is driving down the cost covering the most important.
But I don't pay no success I would say now it's that they did when you -- governor.
I seriously doubt you would have pulled this kind of stuff because you had a you had a strict requirement to balance your budget -- -- -- -- -- about it that much we -- now you have a doubt about it and then I don't think maybe camaraderie is but.
Did you read here election -- -- I don't think you ever.
Put -- folks on on how you've got to numbers and how you eventually.
Would aim to keep the numbers so.
What can we believe -- -- understand.
You know what listen I think he let's let's back up for -- there's there's two parts I don't think the baucus bill -- perfect.
I think there you know there's things and move in the right direction in terms of if we accept.
The way the Congressional Budget Office scored that -- drives down cost if we accept the fact that there there's not going to be coverage for illegals that we're gonna make sure that abortion.
Funding is not covered that -- is that right and there's no public option there's a lot of things that.
The Republican colleagues have asked for.
That they Saturn now part of this you know one -- so and I -- you -- I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry just -- finish what they want you know all of the above are not in the that this stuff is that -- not.
Of this document that it is not an -- That's what that's what.
My Republican conference that's what they even with -- -- doesn't -- very good and intercepted that's -- But the one he -- the part that I wish we can all take a deep breath.
And kind of say you know.
Let's look at what happens if we don't do anything and this is where I wish the president would -- started this post is starting talking about extending coverage -- started.
Are -- saying to the American people the 85% of us about health care.
Here's what happens if we don't do anything if we don't do anything.
Medicare is gonna go bankrupt the next decade into deficits -- explode because the biggest driver of our deficit.
Is not the stimulus it's not that bailout of the banks its health care costs if we don't do anything.
Health insurance premiums are gonna double over the next ten years the business roundtable came out with the statistics yesterday.
If we don't do anything we'll get in -- continues the American business not be able to compete.
Because our American business it's got to pick three or 4000 dollars more per employee.
Our health care costs so we may disagree on how we get there but the current status while.
It's not financially sustainable.
And what's driving me and I -- via a minority of one at this point.
But at the end of the day what's gonna make me decide I think we need some reform but it's got to be paid for and we've got to start driving the overall health care costs.
Well look let him Senator Clinton -- -- -- -- break when hands.
Cost of this or expect to be borne by savings.
And I know you're new -- coming -- to the sanity here.
Promise and hope always springs eternal I know that but -- it has yet to see that ever happened with a lot of -- Medicare you alluded to -- Kennedy as the poster child for this.
Is itself as you said -- gotta go bankrupt.
Let me let me give you get it -- You know we've had this approach where we kind of -- -- -- just go straight.
With you know kind of what the insurance markets win or let's go with the expansion of some of the government programs.
They don't have -- cost controls you know Health Care Reform has actually started to take place in this country in the last.
Three or four years but where it's taking place -- is with some large corporate employers.
Who employ a whole lot of folks who found a way to keep their costs down and not cut corners and their employees Delta -- -- safely for us.
I don't want him to what -- I saw the same CEO senator tell me.
The only -- what I wanna stick with the program these rising a bit crowded for it because even with the penalty on better dumping out on my employees.
Taking a hit because.
That's gonna be better for me and I'm more of a cost savings from the and and maybe that's what some of the liberals in your party really wanted that that the union gets a government option that was.
I don't items.
Sports and -- single Payer system and I that's one of the concerns I had about this whole public -- turning.
I think we ought to have more competition we've got a health care system that's got no transparency we don't really have a free market health care and we ought to be taken somebody's best examples.
Of where private business has actually driven down health care costs -- put those into the debate I actually think as I.
Trying to talk with my colleagues Democrats Republicans alike.
They all talk about some of these you know Safeway food stores for example who's really lower cost 100000 employees what we -- to take some of those models and bring him into the system.
Real quickly do you think it was a mistake for the president to dump this on congress had -- come up with something and then he would try to do -- -- -- -- -- morning quarterback.
I -- the only time we're looking.
I -- -- and I -- there's a new senator you know -- on me to do and say it.
I wish we would start of this discussion that we didn't -- how this was gonna help noticing how would it help or hurt the 85% of its -- health care.
And a lot of us who like to help to -- Well you know when Mitch McConnell and others say maybe just -- and throw it -- start again but he's.
That was all I -- I always.
The cost of doing nothing.
He's going to be -- financial disaster because the current system is not sustainable so we've got to do something here and I'd rather say let's find the 80% we agree on and start moving forward some of that.
And let's keep our eye on the bottom line driving down costs senator very good having you thank you very much good luck.
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