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Got to North Korea.
And I think President Bush says.
He's -- it has just removed from the administration's axis of evil list.
We're -- that 37000.
Tons of -- with plans to send up to 500000.
Tons of food.
Just days after North Korea extended an olive branch to the world destroying one of its cooling systems for its nuclear reactors but can we trust them.
My next guest says absolutely and as long overdue.
And even unlikely expert his name is Bobbie Egan.
He's the owner and get this copies barbecue it's been we've been profiled in the New Yorker Magazine and Vanity Fair magazine joins me now.
The shed some light on all of this.
It's not completely new to this -- is also former FBI civilian operative who secret agent man -- You have an agent man running -- barbecue I love it -- time job part time job now tell us how you came to have -- barbecue.
Have -- and apparently north Kerkorian officials than any other restaurant in the area.
Well I don't very much get out frequently when her anyway.
And I was a senate select committee witness on the 1992.
-- looking him POW -- them and I walked the Vietnamese.
Part partly responsible for -- in the Vietnamese through -- normalize relations process with the US.
And then the -- that was successful the north Koreans who -- and for the Vietnamese -- -- there were looking to reach out the United States.
So you -- -- years ago and he kept those connections.
And they could have since you can't that he made those friends that come over to -- barbecue in Hackensack, New Jersey right.
Well it's not that simple first we made our friendship and I was over at their UN embassy.
And we've developed some type of dialogue and went over to North Korea -- befriended them.
And I wanted to see what their position was and what their side of the story was -- for fifteen years to learn it.
Now right now you think they're not as much of a threat.
As some of the US and in the administration would say why do you think what I think that.
Well you know quite obviously right now you know this president thinks that not a threat or he wouldn't be -- responding to them they haven't been a threat for some time.
You know was when I was working with this 128 count our intelligence over in New York.
On the north Koreans were reaching out for the past administration in this administration.
And they were willing to give up a nuclear facilities course -- how to price.
And we turn -- back we did in 1994.
With them under Clinton well quite frankly it was a better deal for us than it was for them.
And I didn't feel that -- that that agreement had any longevity because the Koreans you know down the line.
Just -- -- Kim Jong-Il dear leader has apparently ship nuclear technology.
-- places around the world including Syria identify -- -- -- well it's a concern the only -- not going to be concern is that in 2000 enough war.
I was in North -- I met with the theory.
And I took a us senator from Pennsylvania senators -- supremely and we went on -- humanitarian mission.
I met with the -- and I knew what the fearing for their they told in the North -- full flight came back my hand was in the FBI and I told them that we have the opportunity.
The by the technology that the Syrians -- there in North Korea trying -- In the bush administration's response was absolutely -- why let them buy it why that's what he said.
Well you have to ask the president.
I didn't fill with some Smart at the time -- -- think that what do you think of humanitarian.
Disaster that is North Korea now both an economic collapse they depend on the Soviet Union.
We're experiencing that Alito that you -- -- fascinate I -- blaming Kim Jong-Il for any of that funnel blame anybody.
Because you -- to nobody's to blame for people eating there and play in North Korea that's got that's the Imus half -- we know we know where fifty year.
What I'd like to see happen Kim -- give up its nuclear program.
About half stepping down and maybe new leadership and get some real liberty and that kind well let's like hope -- -- they've complied so that's not gonna happen.
Well you know and it hasn't happened we've given that enough time.
Let's try a different approach.
Let's try -- more.
Not so pointing the finger approach like John former ambassador was -- Let's try the approach that this president's chosen but I haven't but -- happened in 94 in the north Koreans still broke those deals -- -- this -- still backtrack.
Still you know sidestepped it.
Well I'm not here to defend north Koreans but during that treaty with one of the few for billions ever to go to that you know site.
Every could -- delegation that came from North Korea I met with me here.
And I have to tell you something we backed out of the deal and this may still be classified but when 1997.
When -- -- washed up on South Korean shores.
OK we were we when we held the money he'll.
So we backed out of the deal.
For right well this is certainly a hot button.
Controversial point that we hope to debate again soon once give a shout out to your daughter's in the control room love and -- didn't help -- a big inaugural certain.
And bring companies -- next time you can -- Iraq didn't bring a bit rate of big knot shop now we -- -- talk of.
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