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Why aren't we welcome to have you don't -- of one important moral Friendster -- -- -- -- -- -- -- order unless they were here and there are you.
Pretty you're pretty good -- love those Guantanamo detaining him victims Obama only one out of -- -- them.
85 -- -- counts -- in the suburban courses posed a military tribunals.
What are your thoughts on now.
I think it's The Who by people saying that -- military this -- civilian courts can't handle these -- are cases it is.
Overblown maybe completely misinformed.
Some experts there -- some very Smart experts on this who have weighed in.
Say you know this same thing might happen in the military commission in the main problem with his prosecution was that the judge federal judge Lewis Kaplan.
Excluded some evidence that was very incriminating about him -- explosives.
Are selling explosives.
But but a military judge might well done the same one thing that at this military commissions to -- site -- the rules.
The rules are very different in the military commission judges have been.
Proven to be pretty protector of -- defendant's right.
Plus this guy is getting hit twenty years to life under the one camp which -- was convicted source not as I was walking pre.
Doesn't doesn't this doesn't judge -- discretion.
And what is sentences and there -- mechanisms -- -- eighty years for example.
I but yes because it anywhere I mean I think according to a minimum -- -- -- But but he could go up to -- all the way to life.
So why -- you know.
Wireless discard -- and civilian court probe into the government.
-- President Obama and attorney general Eric Holder has made it clear that they.
They think the military court military commissions are kind of second -- justice so they're trying to they're keeping them now because they realize they got some cases that -- it -- work considering quarter at all.
And they were hoping to make the guy -- cases.
-- kind of an example.
See this civilian courts can handle these these big terrorism cases.
They were hoping -- be convicted on all counts are the most chaos.
And in that -- it is this is a big setback for them politically it's a big setback for them because it enables.
Republican critics to say you see the civilian court still work.
Criticism I think a lot of other that a lot of experts think is is is oversimplified and -- And it doesn't prove its civilian courts don't work it proves that in one case you couldn't get you couldn't get conviction this beyond twenty years to life.
But it doesn't prove that it doesn't work in other cases in fact there's some cases to be made this guy might have.
Gotten acquitted on all counts in the military commission.
Because the one -- which he was convicted which is conspiracy.
May not be available at a military commission at all.
Our system master what -- crimes -- what.
What specifically whether.
-- charge all these skills were because so it people died he was charged with the murder for everyone who died.
But the overarching charges were.
We're several charges of conspiracy.
He agreed with the others to.
Commit these -- and what they convicted him was conspiracy basically conspiracy to bomb the embassy.
But they didn't convict him of what a conspiracy charges -- -- his intention on the embassy was to kill these people.
So that's why he got acquitted on all these other things -- jury did not find that he intended to kill anyone.
Now that may sound pretty farfetched.
You bomb an embassy but -- didn't mean to kill anyone come on give me a break that's probably some kind of compromise verdict is who is there is evidence from the you know there is there was one.
Juror who -- to be let out of it in the middle of the deliberations saying that she was holding -- an -- or else is ganging up against her.
So the verdict probably represents some kind of compromise.
-- search other general it is scenario.
-- contributing editor for National Journal and also for -- resorted excel and just news restart life -- about to.
Merger with -- in -- browns have very strong.
Yeah well let's let's hope so because you know you.
There's as to who would love it to stay alive for awhile.
Back to what we're talking about a don't want to us what happened to this guy what's -- supposed to.
-- or offend -- and give a damn other terrorists around them.
Around the world and even those who are in captivity now made him -- and tried.
-- I don't think they care much.
What I think it probably means support for you know is the -- I think through the our government is gonna find -- more and more attractive.
Option is not to put these people -- trial at all.
Just told them -- military detainees indefinitely as long as were at war with.
Okay they're associated with the al-Qaeda.
We can -- and -- definitely under traditional.
A military international law without putting them on trial period and as you can see from the -- -- case we have on trial is a huge production.
And in the end.
The only thing you can do to them by putting them on trial they weren't even trying to do -- in this case is is definitely.
You can hold them for very long time otherwise I think you're -- -- -- many more trials.
Of these Guantanamo people I wouldn't be surprised if none of them are forever put on trial again I think we'll keep seen plenty of -- to have.
Kind of more garden variety terrorists.
Who get caught.
-- like this Christmas bomber for example I would imagine we'll see -- civilian trial of him.
-- -- -- -- -- For as long as we're at war and al-Qaeda.
-- -- -- forever.
Well it looks that way doesn't it yeah.
Now and end and that that puts some shoring -- on the traditional military lawyer international.
Formula because the those laws were created -- didn't expect almost -- to go on forever.
And also the people who traditionally been militarily detain prisoners of war.
Are not -- not typically war criminals and these people are.
Criminals war criminals and just -- don't criminals aero car they're both kinds of criminal.
You know our our traditional rules don't really weren't really designed for a situation like this and that's why.
I think we've been having so much trouble broken between the civilian approach the traditional criminal justice approach in the war approach.
As to how we handle people we can actually this guy it.
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