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Led the environmental told from the oil leak comes just weeks after the Obama administration lifted that ban on drilling -- coastlines will this latest -- Curb further drilling joining us now marine scientist -- habits and senior campaign director of the climate and pollution campaigns for Oceana.
So Jacki were you were opposed to what the president even before this bill saying we should open up some of the offshore drilling.
Well yes -- we were opposed to it because what we see is that offshore drilling is -- dirty and dangerous business and in spite of industry claims it's going to be safe.
Government studies have shown that expanding drilling into these areas is not -- lower the price at the pump and it's not gonna make us energy independent.
And we've looked -- offshore wind as an alternative.
That he showed to create three times more jobs and provide a three fuel into the future we know it's not gonna -- -- Now right although like I've I've heard a lot of pros and cons about -- saying that it just not there yet it's not.
It's not efficient enough but let's focus on oil for a second here if indeed it.
These new technologies that they have some organisms that eat oil abilities to contain -- over if those work.
Will that change your mind in any way if they limit the -- Well if those work I don't think we'd be talking about this right now this spill happened on the twentieth eight days ago.
What we're hearing is that there's really no way to contain it -- -- looking at technologies like burning it.
That's a -- that's a pretty basic rudimentary technology has yet.
Yeah I mean it and fire you know.
It it's one of the first technologies we've had.
Obviously these are no win situations it's it's the lesser of two evils but.
The real best way to handle it is to prevent from happening in the first place -- suggesting it offshore drilling that there -- new technologies that make it safe.
You know people might have believed that a couple years ago but they certainly don't believe it today well known tech enabled us.
Say -- -- I think a lot of people despite this awful.
Incident that's happening down there live as we speak.
If things are better -- technology has improved that we haven't had as many -- per year as we used to correct.
Well you know there are -- all the time whether -- happen parades are tankers is there at rig every blew out this last year off the coast of Australia.
You don't necessarily hear about it there remember it a couple of months after it happened but when you add it all up.
And disturbing frequency of spills but again you're not answering the question -- are we getting better is the technology improving lessening the chances spills now.
I'm not that I can not there's dinner no achievement whatsoever in technology I find that kind of hard to believe over the past -- thirty years.
You know I don't you know I don't know maybe it may -- some of the technology has changed obviously they're drilling deeper they're going to harder to reach places.
But then this is what we see is the -- so I don't really know how to characterize that whether that's an improvement.
Maybe you it may be our technology for drilling deeper has improved but our technology for cleaning up mistakes hasn't and so maybe it hasn't kept pace had.
You would ever apply know that there have been some attempts to work with the oil companies that Nature Conservancy -- has Audubon society has worked.
With some oil companies to try to have drilling in a safer.
I'll wave that's less likely did to end up as a result was as what we're seeing in Louisiana have you ever worked we have an oil company in this regard.
-- when we look at oil week besides the fact its bills you know it's also one of the major causes of climate change.
And the only way to really address climate change is to move away from fossil fuels oil gas and call.
And toward clean energy technology so the idea of expanding oil drilling taxes is just sort of it's the opposite of what we should be doing it's the wrong direction.
And so we'd we'd be more interested and in working with for example offshore wind companies.
Which we so you're really -- eliminates -- -- -- -- carbon use of carbon fuels.
Well and let me be clear we understand the feeling is -- -- continue -- not gonna stop overnight but what we're focused on is whether or not it should be expanded into areas that were previously protected.
And we are opposed to expanding into areas that are where previously protected right Jacqui -- -- -- from Oceana thank you very much for being here --
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