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On this -- in the Obama administration -- to back off its demand for government backed health care plan.
Take a listen to health and human services secretary Kathleen for billions.
What we don't know is exactly what the Senate Finance Committee is likely to I've come up with they've been more focused on co op.
Not for profit co op as a competitor.
As opposed to it.
A straight government run program and I think what's important is choice and competition and I'm convinced at the end of the day the plan will have both of those but it.
That is not the essential element.
Our it will this morning -- the web site for the Atlantic magazine is reporting -- -- -- -- -- unidentified administration official says secretary Sebelius quote.
The director of health reform communications for the administration Linda Douglass.
Said the president believes a public option was still the best way to reduce cost and promote competition among insurance companies.
With me -- their diagnosis is -- Parker he's the author of the agency game.
Inside the bureaucratic jungle doctor can hold torch he's the director of the -- -- our medical group who does not accept health insurance.
And Michael quarry -- -- president of MIT management services and the former president.
Of -- the whole world and former marketing director a Bristol-Myers.
Screen at good morning gentlemen thank you very much for being here.
Our Michael very interesting here.
We're seeing the health and human services secretary Kathleen Sebelius moved slightly off the public option but now administration officials saying hold on 12.
It doesn't mean that it's gone.
Where do you really stand and that they getting -- we should -- He -- is it just will all track.
I think there's a lot of confusion out there and I think last week at the public town meetings held by congressman.
In their home district she could see a lot of that coming out people are very confused.
There -- four different bills being considered in congress in the Senate Finance Committee so I think it is a very confusing -- clear message right now.
Doctor I presume this is one of the biggest issues is that it's not clear.
What the issues are and specifically.
Three bills that are sitting down on the hill look -- this is given an opportunity for adding confusion on something.
That's exceptionally important to Americans.
Well we're really is no confusion that people don't want a public option they don't want the people -- run their DMV running their health care.
And and so really but the whole insurance model is is broken.
And -- people want change but they realize they don't want government changed I don't wanna make the four the problem worse.
And that's where -- actually don't take insurance and we've really cut costs 70%.
All major laboratories will take 70% -- every doctor will take 70% last.
And hospitals 7% less -- procedures.
If they can cut out the insurer so medical savings plans are great except at one fatal -- There was no negotiated rates so pay patients would they have the cash they have basically empowered to.
He'll compete -- what would compete with care.
But they pay five times -- -- all all the government needs to do a step in and say.
Doctors need to post their rates hospitals labs.
And got cash has to be cheapest and very ego you're gonna fix the majority health care problems of the country I've got to be without health care will be paying 70% less.
A commitment that -- -- -- catastrophic but that's that OK the doctor but does not work for the people who are -- what about the people who suffer real serious illnesses or diseases.
On a daily basis who need things like dialysis and it seems to me -- they don't have insurance can they really cover the costs.
If they have some serious conditions.
Widely you've really cut those people into that into a small segment so yes -- insurance -- catastrophic plan.
Insurance is for emergencies for things you don't expect.
But for routine -- -- very efficient very wasteful that's where all the money goes is going back and forth with insurers.
-- -- -- patient for a medication is a life changing but it's a little bit differently usually -- At -- send letters back and forth and they deny things not medically necessary.
But it's life changing for the patient so it's a really efficient model.
And we need to go back to a -- competition but competition among physicians not.
Among insurance companies not competent feel you're smiling telling why.
Well with the comment about the MVP.
Caught my attention.
If if if you if you're.
Assistant in your -- probably your health care you want to appeal it.
I think that's a very very good analogy and I couldn't agree more like going into a DMV line.
And you wait for an hour to get served by somebody who's in different and I'm Kerry.
And you discover that you're in the license plate line and you wonder -- it'll -- wanted to get a driver's license should go someplace else.
That is the kind of quote service I think you get from any kind of -- government option and the idea of of an appeal of any kind of the decision would scare the pants off.
Michael how -- -- -- I I find.
Go ahead that I've got to find a very difficult to do -- find a very difficult to imagine having an appeal overturned.
You know just dealing one on one with some -- bureaucrat in Washington.
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