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And thank you joint initiative joining us now lawmakers from both sides of the -- we have democratic.
Vic Snyder from Arkansas and were also pleased -- my phone record Republican.
Bill Cassidy from Louisiana.
Both congressman are also medical doctors so we've got Smart people who understand.
Much of this issue thank you so much for joining how -- how we begin with representative Snyder.
Let's talk specifically about how would the message is not quite getting through.
Tell exactly where we stand up our congressional liberals in so called -- that's what we've seen in.
Sort of that between the lines of some of the media reports that we're seeing because it appears that the president might be backpedaling on certain issues.
-- I think -- I think you're asking the right question is which is where we're going wrong on the discussion.
And I think mr.
Wallace got -- who we need to back up before getting down in the weeds of public option no public -- elect has suffered talk about what following trying to solve.
If you're if you think the problem is just somehow innocent people without health insurance that is one won the problems solved.
The reality is those of us who say listen this -- we were talking about.
Those of us who have good insurance were satisfied with -- it's working for us we don't want that the change here's my point.
It is changing.
We have seen a change.
The the the premiums are going up the two or three times faster than wages co pays are going up deductibles are going up more and more businesses are saying they can't compete.
And they have to considered backing off -- employer sponsored health care.
So those of us who are satisfied need to take take a good look at what the trajectory is like and it is not a good one.
And that's what prepared -- for small business and those in the individual market.
So that's why this is much much bigger than just probably uninsured it involves all of us.
And and that's why it needs to be a comprehensive discussion and solution.
All this discussion about the public health officer of a public plan option that's part of this robust debate debate of what I think is a -- -- But we need to stay focused on what the challenges and it is American challenge not just a -- well.
Think it is a huge it may be a detail but it's a very big detail on television and Cassidy.
You have a particular concern for the uninsured you you began a clinic.
Dental and medical clinic for the uninsured -- -- particular interest in their welfare do you think the public option.
Would increase their welfare or.
You know a good day had -- a lot of common ground here I agree that the faster than the moral case to make.
They give everybody accept the quality affordable oil I agree is back at -- out of aggression you know both -- got to have the correct diagnosis.
-- was driving the problems in this system.
We cannot afford to give access all the reason or having a hard time according to independent groups.
Medicaid and Medicare pay below cost of doing service.
And every year's 17100 dollars -- by a person insurance premium goes the subsidized Medicare Medicaid.
-- the public option is a very important perspective.
-- Jeff you know Medicare which is bankrupting the federal government and Medicaid which is bankrupting state.
We'll be rescued by our program built on this I am follow those two -- incorporating -- That's the wrong diagnosis.
That's not patient centered -- government centered and that was gotten that into the -- -- done.
We do have to figure out solutions for areas -- common ground but I don't think that this.
Bureaucratic model of the way to go.
I've represented a Snyder would have to say about that well wolf first of all good people in Medicare are very satisfied.
-- what's happening to -- with regard to health -- but I agree with bill this -- system is not sustainable.
Whether it's Medicare or Medicaid or VA health care or tri care for our military we have got a -- got a better way of controlling costs and and raping.
Mementos a lot of just jump in here for a second we have somebody a member of the AARP on yesterday who was livid ready to -- her car because you said I am happy with my Medicare.
Ben and whatnot brought up you know -- eight years that system could be broke they don't really have an answer they're sold there needs to be clear message from President Obama.
Did it -- -- you're doing great dollar talking about that because.
They did that that the Medicare folks.
Folks on Medicare that we care about so great they -- there they don't want to change but they are another example it is changing as we talk because.
The trajectory of costs is unsustainable so part of of the the approach that the Carlos is taking on the democratic side and pres Obama is we have got the look for efficiencies and better ways of doing things on -- -- Medicare.
To get that that cost alternative to change and that is part of it but we've got to make the case about that congressman.
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