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-- -- Stand up pastor Douglas Wilson about double documentary collision much -- which will be in feathers in new York and no wall -- social bullish on tomorrow.
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All I I was fascinated and try to understand and it's christianity god for the world book deal.
A ball hard you're just about how people know to be go to -- -- -- -- -- question.
I had a debate last week in London with the conflict but from Nigeria while -- -- you this.
Because his family was a convert to christianity I think his father's generation.
Vehicles the debate -- -- -- and seeing that -- he said.
-- -- -- -- moments in the Bible but in my village we don't you.
What not to do and what to -- what was -- what was thrown.
Before we got the Bible and -- -- from the audience -- him I said well that's you just made a very good point but it was against you'll.
Against yourself we we maintain -- secular.
-- -- Bit of knowledge of a -- -- -- morality as a nation people there one needs to be told certain things.
And we don't know of any society anyway.
But as overvalued motive thefts and poetry as such as they wouldn't succeed they -- they couldn't revolt if they thought that.
Some -- -- you get such morality is it claims to have from humans.
And then tells them to do with good things in the -- joins.
The same people in the tense moments ago -- -- to sort Roland is -- -- and his children.
And to enslave them and steal them on tape -- it's actually -- preaching.
So you better off without religion to won't be serious about.
And -- Christopher uses words like -- and I don't know where he's getting.
But the the problem is if you say that morality is an innate in human.
In human beings which I agree with.
It's an -- because god put it there.
But if you if we lived in the kind of world that Christopher says we.
-- and where we evolved up out of the prime more you'll do and we're evolving into some.
Critter -- that's way beyond us as far away from losses as we are from Chris stations.
If that if we have morality this innate in us that on those terms then there's nothing fixed about it.
There's no reason why our morality wouldn't continued to evolve along with the rest of us.
So you can't say that the universe is blind aimless chaotic.
And then there is this innate sense of morality to which we -- all defer.
So my point and our point is not that if you just don't know what morality is the most certainly do.
Christopher has a very finely honed sense of morality and you can't eat you can't read anything he writes without seeing his moral indignation that's something.
And and many times I agree with him when he's -- against some particular.
Evil the point is not that they can't know what good is not that -- can know what evil -- but that that they can't give an account of it.
That's based on their atheistic view of the world.
And atheistic view the world does not kind of does not produce the kind of morality the Christopher says he asked them.
And I don't as -- it doesn't have been religion.
Is in the same state details and if it's as well it all comes from -- Then is that -- -- instructions say to mutilate the genitals of little girls.
Some people think it is now almost -- or to commit suicide welcome his announcement that don't television so I'm I'm -- -- whatever he says his moral definition.
As matter of fact tomorrow browser does -- -- was the tense moments wouldn't lump.
Your neighbor's wife and -- unit was pigs and then and counts.
So -- and equipment and I don't know why you thought and -- I don't know how you know that's what's come -- -- I don't like the laughing from -- and that's really made -- Alberta is just like my neighbor's property I just happen to be at the time threaten us pixel count I understand -- -- gentlemen our progress from its prisons and maybe -- a little something.
Apartment maybe don't pigs are the because goes sometimes as you -- pool.
Depending on who's listening well which -- it -- -- think the union doesn't make any difference.
What do you know or not.
That god gave you this innate sense of of them an evil and it's small -- ever everybody there were reported in the way it -- finished Chris Russo.
If it if that you -- not -- -- -- -- just born.
And you're saying that as -- -- -- were Mormon but I've got to -- -- -- but what if you don't know that.
When you say you when you never -- The problem with saying you were born with it -- you look out -- the world six billion people or whatever it is now.
And there are all sorts of competing ethical claims it's not just to stop as though everybody is.
Joined hands in their singing we are the world if that's not the way it is you've got competing ethical -- and as Christopher just pointed out.
It's not just the divide between the Houston -- is not the only divide than -- Christian Muslim and you've got all the different competing religious -- where.
One religious -- he says god told me to do this and I would say equally religious no he didn't.
And -- you have to sort those sorts of claims out if you want to be thinking person.
You have to -- you someone makes a claim you should say all right let's check it out.
That's unveils details that that was described by the way is that this solution proven itself that religion is man and although it now religion religion.
Looks exactly as it would look.
If -- -- been made up about human species that's and one half chromosome away from chimpanzees.
Or it looks exactly it is or it looks exactly the way it would look if man rebelled against god -- the Christian says he did that is those summit -- -- let our talking with Christian Andersen's.
And Douglas Wilson had gone around the country -- -- and yes underdog along.
We get along aren't personal and about that story a man and -- and the documentary that you -- is not.
It's interesting that there when and understanding that long OK is -- we have to go to the -- -- -- -- -- -- The body language on the cover over Donovin Darius -- -- -- -- body -- there we were we're arguing over who's gonna pay for the military exercises.
Sort of known instances -- -- to beginning discussion capital.
That's certainly about it so.
All but how except that he wants -- say there's absolute certainty.
That there is no absolute certain what has a lot of violence and by having 100.
Just you know I'm a quiet moment herself problem it's all about what -- other.
-- yeah -- I think we both played off of what that we both learn from one another I don't think on the fundamental issue.
I don't think anybody's budged but -- you can't.
Debate this way without saying OK okay that was.
That was a nuance and picked up on before I need to adjust.
Indy -- -- -- you sample of this where atheism is not the absolute statement that there is no god it's the more nuanced statement.
That we don't have evidence sufficient to.
Lay claim SARS thing -- and -- me just better to believe everything to sinkers.
Well that would be the sordid wages.
Mean that was -- -- proposed by the Christian school supplies fell what I go to news.
But then you have to sooner or no I didn't have to assume -- and that they have to assume that you if you go to most of the -- rewarded to -- You know so that -- was strong as one of the cheaper organs.
And when you believe everything it if you say you can't just believe everything every competing religious -- because they're mutually contradictory.
And that's a -- and didn't suit the original all titled woman the baucus analyst profanity good for the world.
Although David is entitled description of the world and -- notice -- some places to -- -- -- religion.
Got a little what's the difference.
Bigs to double the small for me not to go routines and rituals you know he thinks a -- one of them and anyone version of that presbyterian question.
Is true costs and -- that doesn't mean he's really go to his work cut out for a.
-- if it turns out that you just everywhere you go there you are of course you can't stop thinking what you think you can't stop believing what you believe.
If you came to the conclusion -- another position where the correct one and -- was not that's the time for an honest man it's changed positions.
Here's another way of putting I always think I'm right.
I don't think come I don't think I'm always right but I always think I'm right.
I know that I've made mistakes it is important mistakes big stakes trivial mistakes.
But everyone in the whole world believes what they believe at the time they're believing it everyone thinks -- right.
So that's not a complaint we'll talk more with --
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