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There Brockovich we we know you -- we get -- in the movie.
And then since then what you've written a brand new novel rock bottom.
I'm not much of a novel reader but this is is this one of these novels that's really.
About real people but you just change the name to make it a novel.
-- kind you know it's that will be the fun but I mean there's a character and their AJ in a lot of people may think that she's me.
Pinch kind of is that she does a whole lot of things that hire other people probably couldn't get away with which is part of the fun yeah and we call it a cause an -- And it just.
Well and I'm not sure how I can really define about what we believe cause novel is is this a book that we hope will inspire people through character.
To find inspiration to learn something about real situations that are actually going on.
Some of the cover ups that can be involved and that when they're done reading.
Because they're -- they -- become more aware and they're actually called to some type of action whether they become proactive -- get involved.
All of -- -- environmentalists.
Some more than others but we all want clean air clean water we -- we we -- we want to make sure our earth is protected.
We get an argument so great arguments about this topic to very -- red meat controversial confidence -- when you get into these things that mean going after someplace that has.
Polluted the water or ground water whatever might be you wanna know about that you wanna clean him up you want to penalize -- you into all sorts of things.
Is there's some place so where you get.
Overzealous and it's going to and I -- I saw an article about little town I was just telling you before we went on about.
I -- in California launch -- little town called Davenport never heard of them before either in denial but that doesn't cook out and central coast -- and they had to cement plant that provided to submit for the golden gate bridge and they've been around for a hundred years back but because of environmental rules they have been run out of business and -- these people without any jobs in this town who is that.
Is that good for the people.
Now you bring up an excellent point and I am familiar with the Davenport area and seeing that plants in there has been issues -- -- them plants in Davenport.
We have a situation Riverside California.
Already United States where this industry uses a lot of heck surveillance coming that's coming from the rock and it can get blown out and -- -- On communities but your point being.
Is it it.
People do want jobs and we don't want to come in nor does the community.
Want to just come after industry and run all the jobs at a town after all it's their families to.
Rather what we're looking for instead of this it has to be this where it has to be that way is to be able to work with those companies and get them to be.
And more responsible for what every other industries doing with in that community these people in these communities would much rather have.
Between them and industry that they are operating safely.
That -- are not emitting into the air that that water is clean they'd rather have good health.
And jobs then some litigation that could take ten to fifteen years to resolve.
In the hopes that they have some money at the end of the road but they've lost their health so it becomes.
A win win or lose lose for either side and I -- desperately.
Trying to work with communities.
In the legal arm and the governmental arm to get everyone to the table so we can have a win win.
-- so how's that going though because.
Because that that's the trick is diversifying fuel thing about everything in moderation and then the all -- but but.
How do you get people that are extreme on both sides like that if you can if you can bring people from -- together.
On this you're.
You're a rare one because not many people are budget right well -- a lot of money that funds people didn't have to fight with each other.
Well I think that there.
What I tried to do I've been known this for twenty years so I get it interesting perspective -- what's happening between agencies the legal system companies itself and the community.
And I often makes me look at what happened in Hinckley California which is now on the the famous case hence the movie right a company paid 333.
Million dollars because it concealed that they were poisoning the water.
Then a second lawsuit ensued and that payout was 335.
The company didn't clean up so we're now looking to litigation again 59 and I guess for defense fifty million I guess in cleanup costs.
You're looking at a billion dollars and had -- just done a different business model work company.
Acknowledged the problem.
Cleaned it up they would have not only save the lives they couldn't save the environment and they would have saved their company potentially hundreds of millions of.
Well it even more when you get to the lives part I've seen some of these cases that you must have a long list of them where you've alluded to and a few minutes ago.
I get sick from something is going on in my community when I'm dead and gone twenty years -- force -- grand children see.
Eight dollars and 65 cents out of the settlement.
I couldn't agree with you more and this is absolutely.
A big concern for me because I'm having more.
And more communities coming to me with more and more problems.
A better solution we've got to clean up the mess that we have so we have better health in the future so we have cleaner water today.
And so companies because communities still need them to progress forward listen I care about the environment and even for the environmentalists that are -- far this way.
They take airplanes -- vacation they drive cars sit us so I think what has to happen is we're so it's either this wait for that way and.
Are you -- generally only are you the mediation business.
Is that what you're effectively doing.
That's what I feel that I should make an effort to do more to help communities that are coming to this so you're doing that.
And then -- reading novels.
Well are you a writer -- mediator.
What are you.
I do a whole lot of things it's very overwhelming for me I'm a foot soldier too well out there on the ground.
Listening to what's happening to people see sometimes I don't think we're listening to what's going on with them so I'd be coming here where -- dumping information.
So the book for example is a way to tell stories that are going on that we may not be aware of that.
Has a character that somebody could relate to that might be inspired by.
That can remove himself from the inundation of information that we're getting.
Read a novel.
Feel little -- the little suspense would be able to close it and go gosh I wonder if that's really going on.
Maybe there's a resource that I could look into maybe I could do something about it and people could become more proactive so I think -- book is a good way through entertainment.
To create awareness it can inspire others to a call to acts of auto club that says look you've got to entertain and before you can inform -- -- so I thought says that this would be a good avenue for people and I hope they enjoy it so.
But -- out there are trying to get communities.
Where we can have open communication and transparency between them.
And companies and listen the geo storms not gonna go away.
We've got agencies have failed us I think that there's other solutions and we're gonna have to work hard to find.
And Brockovich thank you very much merit -- book they could very much.
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