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The President Obama had an event there in the last hour talking about education as part of a drive to overhaul the No Child Left Behind law the president.
Once -- -- to require students to be college or career ready by high school graduation and he wants congress to act on that and make some other fixes to the law.
Before the start of classes for next fall -- step in the right direction want to talk to Joseph Klein.
City Education Department and Maurice and executive vice president these days of News Corp.
our parent company still good to see again thank you for coming in.
Fixing No Child Left Behind let's start there because that's what the president was talking about today you were in and here in New York City when that -- put in place -- -- effects and if so I think I think.
Need some changes and I think the president's right about that but the basic structure is sound No Child Left Behind made us focus.
On the achievement gaps on student performance on year to year progress.
Problem is it had an unrealistic assumption that all children would be proficient by 2014.
Says -- get close to that it was that I will -- a bit.
-- and in addition I think we ought to focus more not on.
Simple proficiency but really on student progress -- -- some schools if you have a lot of children with special needs or children or English language learners.
Making progress even if you don't always get them to proficiency in the short run that really matters so I think those -- the core focus.
Plus I think the -- want to build in what he did with race to the top.
Race to the top what's the single best before reform agenda we have seen coming out of Washington he want to take it and make it the core of the education act.
Put the right incentives in place now with all of this we have the backdrop of these union conversations that continue to go on and one of the reasons we've.
Wanted to have you back on the show let's talk about Wisconsin.
And whether or not you think there's a national fallout from what's happened.
In Wisconsin for the union movement in the relationship with governments so I have my view as a position in Wisconsin.
It's gonna become highly politicized and that is not the way you want approaches -- take what's going on in new York New Jersey or other places Florida.
I think the people really want significant reform when you get here -- -- even bargain and not far in that but comes in on manhood type what you wanted to ask about because you know you spoken out against tenure we've talked in the past about you know the last in first out policy with a last teacher and is always the first one out.
Because of seniority not because of how still they may or may not be in the classroom.
But this idea of collective bargaining for unions should that be on the table -- something that we should be talking about in other states as well or you think.
No no let's just deal with some other issues and for me I'd rather deal with the issues because I think that's where the public is engaged and they want change last in first out which we've talked about -- it's ridiculous to say.
That you've laid teachers off based on reversing -- rather than based on merit we've got to get to a time when marriage matters tenure.
We don't have tenure another any other field we've got to get there choice in competition.
You want choice for your children you would never say I take the neighborhood school even if it's -- right we can fix these things but you know -- -- is a question of public.
Collective bargaining is always been out there it's ironic.
The federal government doesn't have collective bargaining for its employees.
So when people subtle look at this they don't realize either the history or the fact that sounds like -- to -- distracts from the other -- -- certainly nomination driven -- and -- I get -- -- the issues -- where I think.
Real change has to -- -- -- thank you very much it's great to see you and we'll have you back on against him look -- to Joseph Klein not here News Corp.
these days formally the new York city schools.
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