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-- look at these latest reports this he's a report that came in talking about how education or teaching profession.
In this country is not a high status profession that we're not getting the best and brightest in the classroom you had to name one thing one thing to get better teachers in the clutch and that would be one.
We have to elevate the teaching profession that takes many things it's no silver bullets -- this equation.
But wherever it's an international conference here -- -- the very high performing countries from around the globe.
They -- at a much higher bar with a loud in this profession and I raise their hand.
In -- only top 10% of those who apply are allowed the privilege of teaching.
-- you give -- much more respect there's greater support petition compensated better because they're doing great great work you're doing these these.
Bill the -- systems of this type of form.
How much of that is about pay of verses.
It just you're making the universities more challenging to get into a mean or it's just a combination -- -- -- be all these things to be clear no one goes into education to make a million homeless refugees the most optimistic.
People you're ever going to meet.
Although I think teachers are definitely underpaid great teachers -- -- -- underpaid.
Having a good competitive compensation system is part of it.
But it's got to be -- piece of the -- it'll never be determining factor as to why some states especially here's the other thing is that if you if you want to change the type people are coming into profession then it's gonna take some removal of the people who are currently in right.
There's a lot of debate in the country now about.
This lasted -- the first out policy which is in effect in many school districts around the country where you know it's seniority really what rules it.
What's your clear position on that you are you against that.
It will also give our huge budget challenges around the country -- on if you're laying off all your young teachers because that's easy thing to do.
That's not good for children.
If you're laid off all your veteran teachers because that's the thing to do save more money quickly that's the wrong -- Tibet policy you have to look at who's making a difference in students' lives you've got to keep the great teachers in the classroom and be clear particularly disadvantaged communities.
Historically that's there's tremendous turnover in this Tobin who need the most help keep the least they're losing all their teachers all their good young teachers are all the good veteran teachers.
-- -- -- prob by the mid just down some not tennis in question and a number of different ways are -- if -- is going to be clear on whether you're against that policy for example Michelle -- comes on our show.
Number of times she's adamantly against -- is a real big problem or you're against I'm against any policy that doesn't take into account.
The difference the teachers are making -- students lives and -- -- what is getting rid of a great young teacher.
Our great thirty year veteran teacher on the -- that -- -- -- keeping great teachers in classrooms particularly in the communities were too often that talent has has.
Has flat OK and you're willing to stand up and challenge the unions on those types of policies I've I've worked we'll continue to work with everybody.
There's nothing more important we can do that to get a great teacher -- every pass from keep them there and I've been out -- -- working with everyone across the board.
Ought to -- that -- have you found in this conference or anywhere else a model that really works because the thing that strikes me as you look at Singapore -- -- there's like five million or less people.
His Singapore so different I mean they're not it's not apples to apples in the comparison I'm sure it's not -- indeed there is anything that would work here that's happening somewhere else there are many things and you know so Singapore's little smaller we also have China here -- it was -- that yes it's so.
That there -- challenged the scale that are real but that are -- lessons we can learn from countries that are honestly out educate us today absolutely.
And again this idea of having a high bar not everyone should be about to enter a classroom to really be very very clear there is like give elevated profession.
South Korea always come back to South Korea teachers are known as nation builders really profound concept.
Well I think our -- right here in the United States and nation build as we don't respect them as such -- so we have to.
Elevate the profession.
-- this -- we have about a million teachers that are going to retire baby boom generation moving now our ability to attract great talent over the next two years.
We'll see public education for the next thirty it's a huge opportunity so that as a timeframe that looks like -- because one thing to say and you end and some of it as you're right -- a lot has to do with demographics but you can learn lessons from these other countries but he can't move.
Can move the unions for example it you can think all you want about it and not make it out so we all have to move that you just have to -- -- that -- -- our Department of Education has been part of problem.
Local boards of education have to be more creative -- -- have to show -- court.
The point fingers we ought to step up and say right now what we're doing simply isn't good enough in this country does its -- story right at the end of the day and that's what we talk about a lot of this -- networks so much -- we have a 25%.
Drop out rate.
You know -- -- there -- no good jobs not zero today's economy for high school drop out.
If we perpetuate that we perpetuate poverty we perpetuate social failure so we have to get much better outcomes for students.
Nothing's more important again getting great talent teachers and we don't talk enough about principles breeding great principals intonations -- what's your number one priority is -- the last thing right now that you would that you wanna get done quickly you've worked very hard on race to the top.
The pretty good reviews a lot of people like what you've done with that is it -- No Child Left Behind it and what's next for you two bags are we want to apps would fix No Child Left Behind.
It's far too punitive.
Far too prescriptive.
Too much top down from Washington narrowed the curriculum we want to reward excellence.
Who -- -- -- to raise standards which they're doing.
We want to look at growth and gain real picture shall have a well rounded curriculum in fact that -- want a smaller more targeted federal footprint market No Child Left Behind -- we will continue to invest in those programs in the budget process they're making a difference.
-- the top invest in innovation fun promise neighborhoods.
Early childhood education and our our traditional formula funded programs.
To help the most -- shall not secretary Jacqui good to see you again thanks for coming on the show appreciate it.
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