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No matter how.
On this day.
-- is never going to say that's it's.
And it shows you how out of touch is congressman Charlie Rangel still wrangling despite facing thirteen charges of misconduct by the house ethics panel.
And the irony of this case against Charlotte -- is at the New York Democrat had such an admirable past.
He was a war hero he worked his way through law school working as a janitor he entered congress is a reform candidate.
He really is a great American success story which makes his downfall all the more tragic and an object lesson.
Of how the halls of power can corrupt even the best of us our next guest shares -- military background -- Charlie and comes from the same state as Charlie Rangel does we welcome back retired army colonel and Iraq War veteran.
Chris Gibson GOP nominee for the New York's twentieth congressional district he served 24 years in the military including four tours in Iraq.
And now he wants to serve his country in congress -- forty years in congress.
Shows you what can happen to -- great American success story like yourself a military hero he's forty years too long is that one of the big problems here.
But is too long you know that the founders they envisioned.
That citizens would come forward for a limited period of time and to represent represent those.
In their district and over time we see.
Such as this when you have represented there for too long.
That they can be inclined to to be tempted now should be a duty.
A privilege yes but a duty someplace that you it you don't -- -- be dragged kicking and screaming like some people are towards jury duty.
But it's if it has to be seen as a duty more than.
Sort of way to become famous -- way to -- -- to more money it's that are well you know these charges clearly are disturbing in and and mr.
Rangel can have his day in court.
You look at public opinion polls of congress and you can see that among the worst.
-- -- and institutions in the United States I just came from an institution.
The united states army retired in February that enjoys.
Some of the most favorable public opinion and ratings and you know so you look at the integrity of the trusts the mission orientation.
And it you put.
The interest of others before yourself Charlie had that.
Charlie was it was very he was a non commissioned officer in the Korean War.
Some of they had medals include a couple of purple hearts he got he has I believe.
Did he get this over star producer -- I think it was -- it was it was iron it was across anyway got it he was so well.
Well seeing hero of the Korean War and yet he lost all of that after forty years in congress or so the charges would indicate -- You know one that into -- we respect that service.
And I said and mr.
Rangel had his day in court you know I think that the -- public opinion rating fifth for congress regular right now -- for two weeks.
One is they're not focused on the problems at hand in America you know this is the first time since 901974.
We have no budget.
And the first time since 1974 no budget no budget he can't govern.
There's no plan for job creation there's no plan for fiscal responsibility to balance that budget.
And that's the reason why the number one reason why I think congress has problems with -- public opinion polls but followed by moments like this I think.
Well I can tell you I disagree -- -- I think it's moments like this moments like we saw last Christmas when the health care which it was being debated on the basis of bribery rather than the merits of the case where they were offering little favors and for people to come along with -- I think it's -- the unseemly side that gets under the skin of Americans more than anything else but it clearly it's it's involved in this and and that was really my essential point.
Is that the representative the representatives of the people or to focus on the problems.
Before the people and not put the interests of themselves before the people -- -- -- -- is -- -- really by the way are -- -- term limit guy I have.
I am coming out what's what should be the maximum you know I think I think that what we ought to do is do some serious reform on this -- I think having a two year term.
You constantly see members of congress continually running having to raise money raise money.
And run for congress I think we ought to look at do and four year terms and having two of them similar to what we have with the present United States.
Of course people would argue that two years brings congress the house of represents closer to the people.
It did you know we see in a mid term like this when for example how important it is to have.
Quick judgment on the basis of of how congress she's doing a two year judgement instead of before your -- you know you look at the fact of the matter is is that.
Most -- -- to say who look at this we'll tell you that.
Members of congress are consistently having to raise money to continue we can get up for reelection questions about problem you know I'm new at this and data for about four months.
And I'll tell you and I feel like there's too much money how how many terms would you limit yourself to.
By eight years they hit.
All right well I think we ought to go to four year terms and two of them.
Chris Gibson it's a pleasure to meet you in person we've talked to each other over a satellite good to see here -- good to have you back.
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