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The government prize -- secrets but it doesn't want you O'Brien to the government secrets.
The web sites at WikiLeaks rocked the military establishment wanted to have 90000 classified documents on line.
Now the people running the site -- hiding and planning to -- thousands more related documents that could be even more sensitive.
Is this their right to freedom of the press.
-- Wiki -- over reaching the boundaries of what's legal joining me now is William Kristol the founding editor of the weekly standard was also a fox contributor.
Bill thanks for joining us today you you and I have been around long enough to remember the Pentagon papers which is the last time something of this magnitude happen.
The Nixon administration ran the court.
Because they've got wind that the New York Times was going to publish a secret history of the Vietnam War which was available only to the leadership of the Pentagon.
And the court ruled six to three -- can't stop them from publishing.
Whatever they've obtained as long as it's a matter of the public interest is about the same case as we have now.
Well now in the Obama administration as you know judge didn't didn't try to stop the publication at a time the court said in the Pentagon papers case that that after publication whether you could prosecute people.
For illegally obtaining or publishing a dangerously dangerous secrets that would be dangerous to our national security -- individuals and -- question.
The Pentagon papers to that -- history -- as you said it really was history.
These documents seem to have the of the names of people who -- US forces in Afghanistan we're having target by the Taliban.
I'm told by friends who -- very familiar with these documents especially 151000 that -- hasn't been released yet.
That this stuff and then that would be operationally helpful to people who are fighting US forces in Afghanistan.
So that's there's no constitutional right -- back -- We'll see I disagree with you in my view on -- -- that happy to hear hear your thoughts on this is that when anyone uncovers evidence of government wrongdoing government lying government secrecy.
And they reveal that it's a matter of public interest and it's absolutely protected from the Pentagon papers case case and from about four cases since then so.
Let me ask it to you this everything -- -- that.
-- we protect yourself sailing that's that is what does that mean that warrants at a mean if it's -- outside -- -- court you know.
The Supreme Court has never said that -- true military secrets operational secrets.
Can be released it and here's what is trying to -- to support his that the Supreme Court has said in cases involving military secrets and the names of rape victims.
Can be prosecuted but at the thief gives it to the press and that's a matter of public interest the press can't be prosecuted they can't even be sued -- some question if the government were lying about our successes or falsifying.
The deaths of American soldiers the numbers that it reveals.
Wouldn't it be a positive good for us to know that.
Well might be and that's why as an editor I -- can't automatically say that no editors should publish.
Documents that have been obtained perhaps illegally.
But that have been classified with some classification -- -- that it is against Florida steal classified documents and let's not overdo this some of these documents reveal some.
In a lot of details of difficult operations in Afghanistan we did not reveal that the US government is lying about the number of Americans who were killed.
And I think this fellow who this creep who who sell the -- you.
-- the documents I guess -- three news organizations.
The deserves no sympathy I guess you can't really -- you have taught him not in the US you're talking about the -- that the military has custody Bradley Manning and that's a woman Julian -- and I had probably about -- I am talking about him absolutely what you guys try your -- is -- -- -- guys like that that we'll find I don't have to approve of -- -- try to damage the United States of America.
And I have -- do not publish things that will get people killed.
Wouldn't you want to publish something that show the government was not telling the truth about civilians being killed.
Not if it was about now and that not necessarily not a within get our soldiers over -- killed them.
Let me switch gears a little bit because the show is about privacy.
Do you like it when you go through the TSA and they take a picture view on the US marshals keep a picture of your naked body no disrespect intended to -- with -- -- for years.
If we have been.
I noticed that horrifying thought that the -- for -- I'm looking at that.
I don't like get I don't really know enough to know honestly is this a sensible security measure -- but I do not have an absolutist libertarian position.
That under no conditions could one do such searches -- require people who are flying planes -- doing other things that -- Indy Lights and cameras on the streets especially the ones in New York City that have microphones on the mouse well southern if you and I were whispering in front of the fox building the government and Natalie CES adherence.
I'm not crazy about them but if there's sufficient precautions that those things are not just disseminated their only use when.
There's a suspicion that you and I conspiring to commit some crime where to go back and look at some crime that was plotted do you trust the guy and -- information.
I just parts of the government with a fair about a private matter they have a time of it Bill Kristol thanks for joining us much appreciated please can.
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