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The topic tonight is free speech -- -- -- -- -- passionate debaters on the topic famed civil rights attorney Ron Kuby is here with us in New York.
And Republican strategists -- well -- Ford joins us from Little Rock, Arkansas.
My colleagues welcome here run to you first.
Why does the government want to suppress speech.
Usually -- wants to suppress speech because what people are saying it's considered to be.
Destructive to the government divisive or in many cases simply embarrassing to -- the government -- particular policy we see this consistently administration after administration liberal or conservative Republican or Democrat but one thing they'll have a comment once they get into office as they want to manage information and they want suppressed dissent to know well why doesn't congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech mean.
That congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech or Margaret welcome here it's nice that they.
Thank you very much well you know what gave you an infant -- something that I think many people are outraged look at the instance of the weakened late dale but that's going on right now.
You know what you gotta ask yourself.
Everyone is from free speech but -- got could be a limit and I think that.
Government needs to.
Help what don't limit when we get something just like -- -- a -- Not in the constitution and the federal government's power comes from the constitution.
How -- the federal government do what the constitution doesn't about the right thing to do.
Let me -- you -- are you are free speech when it -- I mean I think when it not.
About it Pat -- didn't look what happened at this -- he got beat headed because of that information and there's more to.
We got to do something about it and that's I think people are out right and furthermore I think that the soldier.
Wake -- -- need to be tried.
Are controlled through a soldier -- affect the soldier I would submit is a different story this as a person.
To whom the government has wisely or unwisely entrusted secrets and he did what he did with them.
But the publisher of those is protected by the Pentagon paper's decision the Supreme Court as evidence in the public interest you can print it threatened.
That's right under the Supreme Court has never taken.
An absolutist position they've never said.
That congress can never make any law ever recover plus what they've said -- the only time you can prevents -- suppress speech.
It's it's fire in a crowded theater or the location of trip chip transports during actual time of war.
Danger that is clear imminent and immediate and catastrophic and that's not WikiLeaks although the government always such if you release that's.
You know that the sky will -- -- the sky doesn't fall look at the Pentagon.
The government always -- using.
You know our government always use of public safety as an excuse Richard Nixon used to the Pentagon papers the Pentagon papers were published the sky didn't fall and we all know what history there was.
But by WikiLeaks papers are three years old doesn't.
What the troops are going tomorrow that's -- -- they -- three years ago.
Why don't we have to know this information anyway why isn't out -- people are outraged up it should not be happening.
Why are they publishing yet people are -- about public yeah.
It's a -- Like you know why should look I don't people out -- -- that I founded and how Smart I thought it actually interesting to learn that once again.
A government that I actually liked him supported is not really telling us the truth about the disaster the Afghan warriors I don't know if you if you don't like it.
Don't read it but your indignation.
Can't be the -- Vicious force oppression -- shouldn't we know -- hang on hang out.
I know you believe the government can keep secrets but in wartime if the government is not telling us the truth.
About the success of the battles of the number of people killed isn't it a positive good.
For us to know the truth I'm not talking about where the troops are going tomorrow I'm talking about what happened three years ago -- well.
But I want -- information.
Spinning me into it and have people that weren't public -- you.
-- the -- documents that I thought we were all publish the documents that I thought.
Had had names redacted so I don't think those names were actually published we're talking about it.
An effort to embarrass or reveal what the government and we're not sorry about an effort to harm the government sources.
-- military and it's quite supply this should not be published.
When it's classified document patient isn't it -- yeah.
It's in it's amazing what the government's job is to try to keep that secret the president's job is to reveal the secret that's unfortunately or for better or worse the way -- -- -- -- But -- -- -- and militant that isn't to me that people who don't trust President Obama to deliver health care because it's a socialist plot.
So we want to give him the authority to start shutting down newspapers really I -- -- Guy that I -- given them all right guys thanks very much we enjoyed it will will resume this debate because apparently some WikiLeaks documents are about to come out -- a well run thanks for.
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