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Republicans and Democrats are claiming that there is.
And moral authority to what they are doing -- they're saying what they're doing is right.
Joining me now is the guy I just would be -- -- on that -- lost in years the pastor of America's.
Largest church of the Lakewood church and -- -- so many best -- his latest.
It's your time activate your -- achieve your dreams and increase.
In God's fame has been very good to have you -- great see you -- does anyone have a moral claim in the selection to an office.
I don't know -- that -- hot I don't believe this it.
You know each of us are responsible for our own selves you know -- live like we issued to take care of our own -- -- I'm not sure I think both sides have good intentions but.
I'm not sure -- know the -- Do you when when things get very heated.
And Nancy and political campaigns and it's -- -- -- such a good and decent man and you're looking at these nasty ads and you're looking at.
One ad portrays that in the governor's challengers just -- fat loser and the other says well these Kruup and then on and on and on.
What do you do.
Well you know it's unfortunate I think people are passionate and unfortunately.
You know sometimes the negative.
Anti war that you know I don't think it's you know what time I believe and -- an -- -- and them.
Not speak and you know not taken things personally against each other pointing to attack -- somebody believes in the record but.
I don't know I don't think it's that don't think it brings -- the best in people.
You don't -- do you decadent a lot of your your your books reverend and M this idea personal responsibility and then you -- -- yourself by the bootstraps and with the lord's help you can move on and and overcome whatever.
-- if you've been dealt.
The reason why I'm asking you you know in -- of your book and everything else.
What you make of the different mentality that seems to be gripping the country now for better -- ill with a government can and will do that.
Well you know what -- I think these people have different perspectives and that they they believe that the government is helping.
Help people rise higher and do their part where as you know the other side sees it sees it differently.
I believe -- -- -- I don't know where us and the politically on it but that it's up to each one of us to look inside and do what if we can do.
You know that the flip side is when we can help somebody else and we -- we can help everybody as a whole as a as a country I mean how would love to see everybody be able to have.
Health care for everything in everything on every problem go away but I don't know what's practiced so let me ask you pastor when you hear the claim.
Health care is -- right.
It is sacred right Americans.
Well I don't know I'm not sure what -- -- -- I believe it it comes back again to that.
Individual person I don't I don't know that.
And in -- technicals term.
What that -- ideas I think we have a right to -- to take care of ourselves to be responsible.
To do everything we can do to stay healthy and whole bit.
You know I'm I'm not sure sure what -- And hey I don't need to switch you -- in a very very tough sort of a box political -- but.
You do police a lot of folks -- -- all persuasions are probably better that -- -- liberal.
CNN viewers fox excitement and interest.
In all serious is what.
When we have this move toward bigger.
And and its backers would argue -- more inclusive protected government.
Is there's some part of you as a as a as a man of god that says this worries.
Well you know what -- I'm probably a little bit different in that I probably don't spend a lot of time thinking about that -- -- -- most of my focus on.
You know trying to help each individual -- you didn't think it would be here's what I hear from -- numbers.
Pastor who wouldn't tell me.
And I'm not gonna buy that car and wait for the next cash for clunkers program I'm not gonna buy that house and wait for the next credit program.
I want to wait.
For the government now.
I don't know you I don't know.
No I'm not in that those shoes of somebody -- that is waiting so I don't know why I hate -- Make a judgment where you know -- push somebody over I don't I don't know if it's the right thing.
For the government probably not studied up enough for me.
Yeah higher calling out.
DT you know when you when you see the world as it is don't worry I know you you talk about.
We all of this collective need help each other -- and supplies to higher quality.
Look around and see you know we're not doing it guys we're just not doing.
Well I'll probably more of an optimistic in annual terms of -- -- in that.
You know I think -- good of what's being done you know -- there is some you know some things that are not so good but I see people in.
Comic our congregation people not the place to sit -- that are reaching out help and others and so.
You know I'm probably biased in that see this silver lining in everything but I -- -- -- -- -- there's a lot of things that are happening that.
To -- he just -- that the folks -- argued that.
Too -- pushing my luck with two.
Would -- -- -- closer.
To a Democrat.
I don't want to touch that.
I -- I got in trouble I gotta get you in trouble it's very good seeing at Dawson it's your life the latest book and in an arsenal that is to sold millions and millions and millions.
That has a very good bad guy -- I'm going to be struck by lightning after this scenario but but you were very good sport appreciate it thinks that's facing you.
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