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-- for joining us right now from DC is Fox News military analyst bill cal and bill thanks for coming on good morning to you.
Morning Carl thanks for -- -- -- you don't July was the the deadliest month in the history of the Afghan war we were talking about this a little bit.
Earlier in the program so curious to get your view on how things are going there and mother are strategies.
Is working how would you characterize.
Well we have a long way to go that's the first thing I'd say and -- a timetable for pulling us out is probably not a good idea we're not going to be able to achieve any kind of our.
Goals over there.
-- until we really got the ability the Afghans to stand up either in the army or the police.
Realm and take the roll over for security and until that happens we're really not going to be able to.
See a clear path to victory.
And that's that's our biggest challenge right now making sure the Afghans can do what we really train the Iraqis to do the Iraqis have done -- well.
And is that in the biggest impediments that your views this withdrawal this drop dead date for withdrawing.
From Afghanistan with the strategy -- that work and if that -- to change with things overnight become better in terms of the outlook for the war.
Well that's such a great question because look the bad guys are watching this timetable to and -- -- -- themselves say let's just wait the Americans out.
They're gonna leave and will take over when that happens I think a lot of General Petraeus.
Has the time that he needs to implement a full of strategy any still working on it they're still were modifications and -- Being made but until General Petraeus really had the ability to push that new strategy forward we're not -- quite know what that timetables timetables -- me is gonna look like.
And speaking of that strategy and Petraeus certainly had success.
With the surge in Iraq trying something similar in Afghanistan is that the way to go in your view and again absent the withdrawal date.
Does that type of the strategy work in Afghanistan certainly it's a different.
It's a different countries in different terrain and it's there's a lot of different factors from what we're we're dealt with in Iraq even though there was success with a similar strategy there.
Well what you just said was right there's a lot of differences the biggest difference between Iraq and Afghanistan is an Iraqi really had urban areas -- the population is concentrated in the search therefore.
Could really put all their forces in that these particular areas where the bad guys work.
If you look instead -- Afghanistan you see that that population it's really spread.
Throughout that entire country and a surge in troops -- gonna have an impact here -- impacting -- but you're never gonna get that -- up in fact you need.
Across all area Kandahar is a good example we have this much touted operation in the Kandahar which hasn't quite kicked off yet but really.
All the bad guys need to do is leave Kandahar when they know we're gonna put -- -- there wait -- out in the hills and wait for us to leave and come back down so.
The search -- say like Iraq is not gonna quite work in Afghanistan in my judgment.
And one of the thinks it's been striking here in in recent days and weeks it just seems like we have a story just about every day.
About civilian deaths in Afghanistan it seems like there's -- -- -- -- a big increase there you were talking about by getting the Afghan no.
Army and up to speed in what have you and train similar to.
The way that it thinks played out in Iraq did the rise in civilian deaths -- -- How does that affect things we don't we hear all the time in war and you're familiar with it over the years in Vietnam and what have you.
Of getting that unit did the hearts and minds argument is that it is is how real is that and and what type of an effect does the the increase -- civilian deaths have on that.
On that -- part of the strategy.
Right well as you've probably seen there's a 30% increase in civilian death for the first six months of this year.
Compared to last year but even at that number it's only about thirteen hundred civilian deaths.
And about 80% to 85%.
Are attributed to the Taliban.
Not to the conduct of NATO forces or Afghan forces so and -- -- quickly by -- that well the Russians were there.
One and a half million Afghan civilian Afghans died during the ten years at the Russians were there.
The US in the NATO forces have done a very very good job.
But minimizing civilian casualties not that they don't happen but -- minimize them the difference though is that when there's any civilian -- these days.
The Internet widespread communications ability of -- to get the word out there but -- It's done very effectively by the bad guys -- the bad guys know when something happens and they make -- body else knows so.
We're fighting against a little bit of the PR there but realistically speaking.
We've got a pretty good job on our side the -- side of minimizing civilian casualties.
They all have an impact Petraeus knows that they do McChrystal knew that they did and we just have to continue to do the best weekend.
Just a couple quick things here before that you go to account with us from DC beyond.
This this situation in Iraq now that we're pulling out dent in terms of combat operations there had -- see things playing out.
In Iraq and how how will the country be when there are no US combat troops there.
To look after it.
Yeah that's that's another fine question thank you -- look we're gonna still have at least 50000 troops there.
Some of those troops are actually combat capable of you probably know so we didn't pull all the fighters out of there aren't the bad guys know the fighters are still there the Iraqi.
Police Iraqi Army I think they're up to the task what they really need to do is make sure they've got the kind of intelligence.
That we were able to get we have a lot of sophisticated intelligence capabilities they don't have that yet.
But -- but they know what has to be done I think the only problem big probably haven't Iraq right now -- they did the government.
There's still no government as you know it's taken a long time to form one.
And that sense of uncertainty certainly affects the population out there wondering when and if they're gonna have a real central government in Baghdad.
Don't leave it there for now bill so can move on but those suits are terrific insights on what's really happening both in Afghanistan and Iraq and what needs to happen thanks for coming out this really appreciate it.
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