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Steam boats that lets them take to push Health Care Reform through the senate with -- now from Capitol Hill.
Democratic senator Jeff Berkeley from Oregon and Republican senator Roger Wicker from Mississippi good morning gentlemen great to see you both thank you for taking the time.
Setter Berkeley and your colleagues senator -- -- -- in organs said the following he said the latest flight she and is heavy on health and light on reform.
Would you agree if the pending legislation in the senate just back.
Well that's a tremendous amount of reform and in the bill one -- to invest in prevention and others and batten disease management.
Another is to -- -- healthy choice incentives that have been used very effectively in private credit companies and certainly that concept and introducing.
A public option.
Which would reduce reed returned competitive -- the health -- marketplace.
Is certainly big piece of.
Very strong reform.
Senator -- pairing we've heard things like opt out options for this -- we've heard about sugar options we've heard about.
Fall -- that never heard so many Eagles weren't used.
For a second option.
Will you support those if it's not a public option.
Well no the the easy answer to that is no -- I don't wanna support anything that has a government run insurance.
In fact competing with the private sector I don't know why.
We don't actually try out for the first time to move to honest to goodness competition.
In health care we haven't allowed insurance companies to.
Compete across state lines we should do that we -- and allow small businesses to band together and association health plans.
To protect their purchasing power we ought to try those things.
That's what works.
In America -- -- historically worked to bring down cost.
And two to make companies.
Whatever kind including insurance companies more responsible and and were responsive to the consumer.
Senator Mark -- I think it's a very valid point if that is it health insurance exchange.
Competition and or do we really need to look at selling insurance across state aren't.
Actually what an exchange -- that creates the opportunity.
To move move companies into new markets.
Health insurance -- -- life insurance it's very hard to going to new market yet set up contact all the providers.
Like having exchanged worried provider can go and and bill that they're going to be in front.
-- hundreds of thousands or millions of individuals and makes much easier for companies -- -- from northern California.
In Oregon it increases competition makes competition possible in a way that the existing system certainly has not.
So until I did that mean -- -- that given what we have right now.
You support the piece of legislation that the senate passed in the finance in the health committees.
Well I certainly support his legislation that help committee passed -- -- on that committee I think it was well done.
It's going to take a lot of adjustment we're going to see what comes out of the the -- -- majority leaders putting together.
And we're going to have a long.
Intense floor debate over -- and -- components.
But it is my belief we have come so far momentum is so important here we have five committees have passed them -- now the bill that passed in the house.
We have a historic opportunity a generational opportunity.
To have affordable accessible health care quality healthcare for every American we cannot let this opportunity.
Slip through our fingers.
Sound with -- there is a great deal of debate about Medicare whether or not we need to set reimbursement rates what are -- Are we doing to the Medicare program because appears as though were gonna bomb this.
The rule Medicare and Medicare Ernie has some of the -- issue.
Well actually the proposal whether you talk about the senate version -- the house version.
Provides four cuts of 400 billion dollars over ten year period in the Medicare program.
And it's not just Republicans say this now Democrat after Democrat on the house floor last week.
Pointed out the problems that this would have.
Four Medicare Advantage which.
Many Americans features depend on -- rural health care when you start cutting reimbursement to providers.
You would you -- rule health -- and you threaten.
The viability of hospitals and many sections of the country so.
Regardless of which approach we take.
At the bottom line we're gonna have 400 billion dollars of reductions in Medicare we're -- -- have huge Medicaid.
Mandates on the states and almost every governor you talk to assess how -- must have I was my state.
Supposed to pay for coming in hand today and it's gonna people -- be paid for.
-- by increased.
All the people of those states -- -- American people as a whole and and then on top of that this vast expansion of the federal government.
We now know that the house bill is actually three trillion dollars.
He calls when this -- implemented.
This is not the time 10%.
Right deficit of one point four trillion dollars and when you're alone right -- to the expanding the federal government in this new entitlement program.
Sam -- we talked earlier you're on the health care committee.
He needs sixty votes to get this past there's two independent senator Joseph Lieberman after the house bill passed on Saturday said.
A bill like this -- -- public option will not appear on the senate floor senator Lindsey Graham said.
Eating dead on a rival how are you going to get the sixty votes needed.
Well there's no bill that's going to be dead on arrival at the majority leader outputs to pieces together.
Because we're all anticipating that we'll have several weeks to wrestle over many points including news sources -- funding.
But let me just expand a little bit on what my colleagues -- Where he said this is not the time I can only replied this is the time because small businesses which are these factory jobs in our nation.
Are really suffering under the current fifteen point percent tax if you will the additional amount they -- by not being part of a large wolf.
And as a drop insurance we have insurance that's like we have more uninsured today and we had five years ago.
And as prices increase those -- an emergency room that's for those prices rise health care further out and more employers are dropping their insurance.
Furthermore -- -- -- -- compete internationally under the current system right we need to put America back on track and part of that.
It's making our health care system are better for its citizens that are better -- Businesses gentlemen yesterday how will health care bill passed by the end of the year senator -- I think more and more American people are doubtful about this the poll last week first time -- You know American people 53%.
Need to go slow on this we need to step by step seven hammer I -- yes -- -- -- before the end of it'll be in conference and probably out of -- on the president's stance.
All right gentlemen thank you very much good seeing you both this morning we.
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