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Care now it's in the senate so will the health care bill pass the senate.
Rich -- inside the beltway were also joined by on the phone by Republican senator Judd Gregg.
Who's in his home district of New Hampshire senator let's start with you what there's a chance of this getting through the senate.
Well I presume is pretty good because the Democrat says that he's the supermajority and that's what they need right there to help but -- does it'll come through in a much better or that it passed the house.
Clearly the bill that passed the house that is besides the government dramatically will increase the debt -- there isn't all create a government program that I think well undermine Al -- Lead putting a bureaucrat and you and your doctor and have a basically if that'll take over all health care.
We'll do they have the sixty -- also mean are they gonna do the nuclear option or what because Joseph Lieberman on FOX News Sunday said he's not gonna go for this event the public option and it.
Well I presume that they put the public option and in the senate the first -- they wouldn't have -- -- -- that'd be very difficult is it because.
We have a public ought to get their numbers that you recognize that this step off is basically the the -- rationing -- -- -- -- government and they can't be aborted.
But as a very practical matter when it comes back from conference to -- Yes senator a lot of voters worried about government overreach is some 75%.
And independents who vote in Virginia for example voted Republican.
Are the blue dogs in the congress and in the senate worried about that they know the polls and the turnout there.
Well you'd certainly think that they'd be concern about because I think Americans are worried about that you know.
Most Americans are coming -- -- period where they've had -- -- have dealt -- it had to lose it very difficult budget.
And the other -- the government just go crazy spend money and pass the bill -- direct hit that this bill this bill.
-- I mean this is literally get to the three billion dollar increase the size -- government.
Most of that's gonna end up being put on the debt.
And I hit are already getting more debt that we can afford -- Go low they're caught realized that I think most Americans look at -- desperate common sense that they end.
We can't afford this massive new entitlement in the.
Senator it's Jim Leventhal I'm trying to put this all together right I think Liz was a little gentle and how she phrased that last question because if you look at opinion polls.
And go back to the town meetings this summer most Americans are indicating they don't think congress.
Is looking out for their best interest and more to the point the congress is an even listening to them.
Now -- I've sat with hearing you here before so -- kind of know where your thinking is but.
If you're saying you think this bill is -- to get through the senate.
What is what is the check and balance that remains to make sure that the American people are being listened to is it to hope that this dies -- committee.
Right well here's the problem.
From my perspective -- -- obvious -- -- That.
Elections have consequences that the president does is they get here but that -- want the public plan want the massively empathize the government.
You want to end Andy got super majority in the house -- that it and in the end you got to presume.
-- estimate majority.
You get what you want and so.
Although we're gonna do everything we can't the point out the victims -- this and certainly try to echo what the American people are state witnesses in the board this expansion of government.
-- -- -- -- -- senator -- -- -- the Democrats are in love with reform no matter what it looks like so does anybody on the Republican side -- to filibuster.
The health reform bills.
Well we've we will certainly if there's still isn't it hit it anywhere near the born again about a well two to three trillion dollar.
It does the government -- -- increase in taxes massive cut Medicare used the by the brand new entitlement.
A public plan or Cody is.
Delay rationing and price controls.
And excessive government we will definitely try to filibuster but we have to have forty.
-- -- -- -- -- Rick Jensen one of the things about this -- it's gonna affect 16 of our nation's economy.
And I know the politics -- poisonous right now in Washington but they have such a narrow vote basically and 5050 almost in the house on this health care bill.
Was there any talk on the democratic side about how important it would be to have more than just one Republican.
-- -- Chiming in where it would be more lopsided to say congress really was for this is it's split right down the middle for something this big seems like it's.
It's a little troubling to see -- split down the middle.
Well well first -- I think the irony is that people are voting it.
Focusing on the one Republican -- -- -- -- you know there's something like thirty or 43 United States I've.
Democrats voted against this bill that actually the opposition has bipartisan.
My view is there are a lot of things we can do it -- it we can do it a bipartisan way they're number of bipartisan -- -- -- but but what.
-- -- there -- things we can do it a step by step manner that will significantly improved delivery held here in this country and which would be bipartisan vote.
Basically take this approach which is -- the house it was -- As we -- through bill that would make -- but it's history but we'll have.
Massive cost massive expansion of government massive intrusion of government that you're really should be doctor I don't think it's that a good way to.
And I thought about art center Greg can you get the 41 votes.
It basically have -- filibuster.
In the senate.
We don't know I mean.
We don't know because.
As a very practical matter we have not seen as bill yet.
Better readers and write it behind closed doors has allowed you -- the president has allowed us tonight -- We don't know what the ability gonna bring to the floor and therefore we really don't know what deals have been -- get -- -- Senator Judd Gregg thank you very much -- -- with NY and Washington appreciated very much appreciate your time today this.
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