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Everybody knows -- -- -- indeed heading to the polls today good.
But Pennsylvania's governor Ed Rendell and this is his final few months in office after battling the State's unions have a labor contracts the Democrat governor may have -- Finally seeing the light when it comes to organized -- governor Rendell joins the company now yeah.
-- -- -- deliver an -- I'm I'm I'm glad you're laughing but it's.
Yeah this the last few months in office I mean do you feel free now to speak freely because in my opinion.
Municipal unions are really hosting those infrastructure projects which I know you love.
I think all you put -- to speak freely about the damage that municipal unions on doing to our states and our column.
Well we'll start I think if you look back over my career I've always had taken the liberty of speaking freely and you know when I became mayor.
In Philadelphia we took on -- additionally an engine made significant changes look.
Municipal unions have to be realistic to have to understand what's going on all around them.
They have to realize that times are tough and they're gonna have to sacrifice and they're gonna have to key in to productivity.
We need productivity everywhere and we needed for government workers as well.
Would you agree with -- that these days today America really can't do big things.
Because all of municipal unions.
Because of environmental laws.
Because of union pay scales because of union work rules and the just the sheer bureaucracy.
Of government presiding over huge.
Huge you know environment I'm site infrastructure projects we -- can't do it any long.
He well you're actually right let me focus on first -- environmental rules that you -- -- It's ridiculous how long it takes to build anything because when you stretch at the time the dollar figures go up.
It's interesting when the bridge fell in Saint Paul.
That great tragedy they were a little totally rebuild a new bridge in about eleven months.
About a third faster than it takes to -- new bridge normally in this country.
We've got to trim down environmental.
Laws in the sense of the time that they take to investigate.
We've got to make these things -- goal oriented more -- productive and there's no question about it in union contracts.
Work rules sometimes -- as damaging financially.
As salaries and benefits can be work rules can add -- that cost -- -- and it's up to the unions comes up to two people becoming unions have to be Smart.
And the public officials have to be tough -- your talking like a Republican.
I mean I don't show you this -- start you go back in 1991 when I became there.
We did the same things in.
In Pennsylvania we will.
As when I was governor with a first administration.
That made the workers contribute to their health care costs everyone else in Pennsylvania was our state workers -- I said enough.
You've got to contribute like everybody else does.
Look union leadership has to become realistic and and very innovative.
And public officials have to be tough I give Governor Christie a lot of credit.
Yes they're standing up and doing the things that are necessary yet and that has to -- Democrat I'm a Republican.
I wanted to get the Governor Christie because he's just counsel that tunnel between New Jersey and Manhattan.
Huge project -- not gonna happen the state can't afford it.
You're an admirer of Chris Christie on -- but you know -- and that's -- -- keep saying you more in the Republican -- -- more willing to -- out front as opposed to just go along for another general.
Absolutely and I think we need to confront all the issues and let's take one issue that I also think we need to confront.
We need to be honest with the American people after this election about what it's gonna take to eliminate the deficit.
We've got to be very very honest and tax cuts I think should we should have -- a compromise we should extend the tax cuts in both areas for a short period of time.
But if we really are serious about eliminating the deficit.
We have to do something about revenue as well there's going to be -- significant reduction in government spending.
But we have to look at you know we extended tax cuts for another ten years Stuart that's four trillion dollars added to the deficit.
Well we -- -- well we've got to be honest I can tell you still a Democrat but I'm -- -- -- act if I extend an invitation to you to come on the end of the regular contributed the program after you've you've left office in January.
I hope you come back I would love to do -- -- I would love to do it and look.
I think it's important that people like you.
Continue to keep the pressure on Democrats and Republicans to get real.
We've got to stop the politicking for the next six to nine months and deal with the nation's problems -- him.
Governor Ed Rendell Pennsylvania thanks go to so so yeah there.
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